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  1. Also just noticed this, does anyone else remember the name of the lead singer of Vampire Weekend being named Ezra Koerig? I just came across his name and turns out it’s Ezra Koenig.


  2. After thinking about the coincidence of me remembering the apple teleportation I’ve remembered some more details. I don’t remember the apple being teleported into the atmosphere but I DO remember there being in error in where it was sent that required the scientists to figure out what went wrong. You said you remember this research being done in 2007, which sounds about right to me. That year I was in 7th grade strangely enough and that year received my first phone…. An Apple iPhone. Idk if there is any correlation and maybe I’m overthinking it, I just feel like I’m going crazy. I KNOW there was a huge deal made about this apple teleportation and no one I talk to can remember it.


    1. Alexander and Abbie: This ‘teleporting an apple in 2007’ thing intrigues me. In our timeline there has been no proven physical basis for any kind of teleportation (except for something called ‘quantum teleportation’ which only applies to subatomic particles and destroys the original), so an event like this would be the hugest of huge deals. Even teleporting inanimate matter – anything as big as a single molecule – would have massive scientific repercussions.


      However back in the 1950s there was a lot of optimism by physicists that a breakthrough would soon be found. In our timeline this apparently never happened, but it wasn’t once seen as completely impossible as it is now.


      1. I don’t ever remember hearing about teleportation period – and by now I would think I would have ran across something. So that I can get things straight in my head, at this point at this time – we aren’t able to do this are we?


    2. I’m relieved someone remembers! The timing of you remembering is an interesting coincidence too! It was 2007, maybe 2008, but in that time-frame. This probably sounds silly, but I’m afraid the memory will disappear again if I don’t anchor it here.

      I recall that they were trying to teleport the apple to another lab environment set up a mile away, but it took the equipment some time (20 to 30 minutes at both ends? An hour total?) to convert the apple, transport the data of the apple, and await the re-materialization of the apple.

      When the apple was supposed to re-materialize, it wasn’t there. They accounted for the Earth spinning, but forgot to account for the Earth’s rotation around the Sun and that’s why it ended up in the sky. (It bugs me that I can’t remember specifics of how the materialization worked in this manner.) The time between the initial stage of the experiment and the *fixed* location they had intended to transport to had changed as a result. The apple DID re-materialize *exactly* where they had told it to, just the Earth had moved and the lab wasn’t there anymore to receive it.

      I remember my best friend calling me to talk about how crazy and awesome it was. I remember reading an interview with one of the younger researchers involved in the experiment, watching videos on YouTube explaining the science and why the error happened, and calling my mom to tell her about it. I remember people I worked with talking about it. Then everyone just kind of forgot about it…
      As soon as I remembered it, I couldn’t figure out how I ever forgot about it. It was teleportation! How?! I was obsessed with it for weeks!

      It happened and then it didn’t happen, so I’m not sure why we still remember it.


      1. I know what you mean about anchoring the memory down. I’m trying my hardest not to forget it as well. Just crazy to me that I remembered the apple teleporting randomly 2 days before running into the Berenstein bear posts online. After several years I’m not sure why I randomly remembered it when talking about teleportation. I’m a Biology major and something so outstanding shouldn’t be so easily forgotten. When I read your original post I almost started crying. I can feel that it’s true, I know I experienced it. So why would I forget it? And why didn’t it happen here?
        The weird thing is, I don’t remember any big research leading up to the apple teleportation. It was almost like it happened out of no where?
        All I know is that recently I’ve been getting a very strange feeling, like something is off. Or almost like something is MISSING. At least once a day I’ll look around and think everything is fake or that I’m just dreaming. Just wish I knew what is causing me to feel so odd.


      2. Alexander: This is really fascinating! Can you remember at all anything about the science of this experiment? You talk about ‘converting the data’ of the apple, which suggests kind form of disassembly into particles (as in Star Trek); but then having it appear in a particular physical location suggests some form of physical projection. The two don’t quite add up to any physical paradigm I’m aware of.

        In this universe ‘teleportation’ in the 2000s only refers to copying the quantum state of a particle (we’re still at a single photon stage and it destroys the original; there’s hope though that it could be scaled up). This in itself is pretty amazing as it violates what was thought to be a major principle of quantum mechanics (the no-cloning theorem), but so far mainstream physics doesn’t seem to be acknowledging that this causes any contradiction otherwise. http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2015/feb/27/two-quantum-properties-teleported-together-for-first-time

        It’s vaguely possible in this timeline that quantum teleportation might be extended to whole molecules – here in this 2012 article there’s speculation that maybe they could eventually try a virus, but even a block of wood at this point seems way in the future! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/blogs/physics/2012/02/tangling-with-teleportation/


        1. Nate, I’m just going by as many details as I remember, so I hope it makes some kind of sense. I do remember reading that it wasn’t Quantum Teleportation. There were two types of research in teleportation described in the articles and this way, which I vaguely recall as Light-Matter Teleportation (Though I don’t know why I think that name, because I don’t feel 100% certain, but I think that’s what it was called), was more effective and seemed to be the safer option for transportation purposes. I just looked up the term to see if it has been used and all I could find was Quantum Teleportation involving the transportation of data from light to matter, but that isn’t the same thing I’m trying to explain.

          In the interview with the young researcher, they showed an animation of how it worked (and the error that caused the apple to end up in the atmosphere) and when reading the article, they tried to explain it in layman’s terms. It involved *bending* around the object, in this case an apple, through a frequency or spectrum and it involved a lot of technical jargon involving how light works. It was explained that it *was* the *original apple* that was transported. It was specifically emphasized that it was not destroyed and then recreated elsewhere as with quantum teleportation, their competing theory to be fair, which they said was not feasible long-term because of the amount of information scanning, storing, and power sources needed. It was argued against quantum teleportation that if you disassemble something, there was no guarantee that the copy at the other end would be whole or exact and that pieces of information would likely be missing from it. They did mention the concept of the destruction of the original to be unsettling.

          It was, I think the wording they used was compressed and decompressed, like a zip file but without actually being compressed? But the key word that sticks out is BEND. They bent it out of our ability to perceive it so that it could travel unencumbered by physicality at the speed of light within a specific distance and they had figured out how to tell it where to appear; stop at its destination with incredible precision. I don’t remember if they could control how long is was *bent* or if they had a finite time limit on it’s bent state.

          I know how it sounds, but I honestly barely comprehend what I’m trying to explain. I really wish I’d paid more attention to the science of it. I could be rich right now! But seriously, it bothers me; this feeling like we have lost some very important things somehow. I would almost feel better if it turned out to be a hoax instead of just disappearing entirely.

          I know exactly how you feel, Abbie. Something is missing or broken and it’s on the tip of my tongue, but I can’t put my finger on it. I remember some of the teleportation research in the 90s and early 2000s popping up sporadically, but no real coverage of the science leading up to the apple itself being transported. It just popped out of nowhere and was a really exciting prospect, and then disappeared just as quickly. I honestly get a headache when I force myself to remember the details and if not for you and one other person on Reddit remembering it too, I’d think I was losing it. If I remember anything else, I will let all of you know immediately.


          1. Alexander: Really, really fascinating! The arguments against quantum teleportation are exactly the ones I would make; too much energy cost, too much storage, too dangerous, etc. Moving an intact object directly would absolutely be much better.

            Your mention of “bending around the object” gives me chills; it reminds me very much of the (generally believed to be mythical) ‘Philadelphia Experiment’ that William Moore and Charles Berlitz alleged took place in the 1940s, which allegedly involved ‘bending light around an object’. I won’t link to sites about it because there is so much nonsense and the whole mythology feels like an elaborate in-joke or prank between military intelligence agencies. But some kind of warping involving the fundamental light-and-matter-carrying properties of space would be what I’d put my money on, if I were told that teleportation were practically achievable, in this or any timeline. Relativity theorists in the 1960s seemed to feel a breakthrough was near; by the 1980s though, we were told that although *theoretically* possible the energy requirements were ridiculously high (you’d need a star-sized mass). The movie ‘Interstellar’ loosely depicts the sort of space-warping General Relativity allows, and only does that by having a supermassive black hole right next to a planet.

            The hope in the 1960s (even back in the 1920s when Einstein was working on his Unified Field theory that ultimately failed) was that we might bend space with much smaller energies – that even the electromagnetic force might be doing it. But it didn’t seem to work out.

            Interestingly in recent years a few lone physicists have been talking again about the possibility of warping space – the Alcubierre proposal for warp drive which still needs ‘exotic matter’ has been around since the 1990s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

            More recently, Harold ‘Sonny’ White, associated with NASA, has claimed the ability to warp space with electromagnetic fields. Most physicists utterly ridicule him for this, but maybe he’s onto something? If what you remember is true somewhere, then perhaps they’re just a bit further down this track. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_G._White


            1. Thank you for all of this information! I have a lot of studying to do. I knew a little bit about the Philadelphia Experiment from movies and stories I had read about people being stuck in walls when it re-materialized, but it didn’t click in my head that it might have operated using a similar technology!

              I’m certain that it was with a less refined version of this tech that they had the earlier success with transporting the blocks around that room in the 90s. I remember reading that it took a while for the device they used to warm up and actually bend the object out of our field of perception. I also remember that once it was out of phase with us, it was transported to its predetermined destination/coordinates and could no longer be interacted with in any way until it phased back in or re-materialized. The simplified explanation in the video, which was a powerpoint-like demonstration of the experiment with some simple 3D animation at intervals, was that it took time to convert it to a bent state, transport the data: which in this case was the apple, and for it to reappear at its intended destination to be received by researchers at the other end; waiting to record the transferred apple’s condition. It was a fascinating read and the animation video showing it was very cool. I wish I could watch it again.

              OH! One other thing I remembered, but forgot to mention in my last response, is what the interviewed researcher had said about the process. He said that once they sent the object off, it felt like they were sending it into the future; I guess because of the time it took to sync back up with our physical space wherein it could be interacted with again. After reading some of the stuff Adam Wescoat stated about the possibility of Time Wars and/or time correcting itself through the merging of similar realities, I wonder if that could be a plausible reason for the tech’s disappearance. In any case, I know what I experienced, even if it was almost a decade ago, and I’ll still remember it even if no one believes me. I’m just relieved beyond words to find a place where I can share this bizarre experience.

              I’ll look into these people and experiments you mentioned and see if anything the people say or do sparks any other recollections. Also, if you find anything about the “reverse aging” technology I mentioned, let me know! I appreciate the interest and the nudge in the right direction! I don’t consider myself all that intelligent, but it helps with my sanity to not be laughed off as a complete idiot. I appreciate it.

              I wish I knew what was going on, because everyone seems to be becoming more collectively aware of things we should not remember. The harder I try to remember, the more clearly I can grasp the memories, but it gives me headaches and I feel really exhausted shortly afterward. I wonder if anyone else has been experiencing anything similar. Maybe it’s nothing, but I just felt like I should note that here for future posterity, in case it resonates with anyone else.

              Thank you, Fiona, for giving us a place to share our memories and find other people that can confirm that we aren’t entirely nuts for remembering something that never happened. Even if that sounds nuts in and of itself. Lol


              1. Alexander Lewis, thanks for those insights! I’m following this thread and enjoying every detail of it, even when I don’t reply. This is the kind of conversation that makes me glad I launched MandelaEffect.com (back when I had no idea people would actually glom onto that phrase and popularize it), and it makes my moderation time worthwhile! Cheerfully (and gratefully), Fiona


  3. One vivid memory i remember having was during my first viewing the second film in the Pirates of the Caribbean series, Dead Man’s Chest. When the crew of the Black Pearl land on the island and battle over the chest, we see Elizabeth (Keira Knightley) corner the comic relief characters, Pintel and Ragetti, who have the chest. She attempts to fight them, reaching for her sword but when she realizes she doesn’t have it, begins to back away, them progressing towards her. Now HERE’s the kicker. I specifically remember that, when the crew of the Flying Dutchman attacked and threw the hatchet, that it hit a tree mere INCHES from Pintel’s face, the camera zooming in on his face and the distance to the hatchet. However, in the DVD, we see the hatchet hit a tree about 5 feet away from the three of them. This still bothers me because i have the first memory so vividly.


  4. Until hearing about the Mandela effect recently, I’d never really questioned it before, but I do wonder about something now. Since mid-elementary school I tended to look over maps all the time. So, it was a bit surprised in highschool to find that there was a new country I’d never seen before.

    I’d never seen Eritrea before, and I immediately wanted to know when this happened. I assumed it had to have been after 2001 since that was the date that East Timor officially became an independent country – was the newest country in the world as far as I knew. But I was even more surprised to find that Eritrea has been an independent country since the early 90s.

    The only explanation I could come up with for not ever seeing it on a map, was perhaps I was looking at outdated maps. After all, a lot of classroom maps still had the “Soviet Union” on them. But it’s a bit strange that when I’d looked at newer maps I’d never noticed it. And in middle school when we had to label the countries in Africa on a map and then color it in, I never saw it then either.

    So now I wonder, did it just somehow escape my notice until then? Or is it another example of the Mandela Effect?


    1. A.M., while I have never looked for the country myself I do remember a friend meeting someone very interesting in college from Eritrea. I have never heard of it since. This was 30years ago and I have no idea why I’d remember a country of someone I’ve never met came from, I would have to guess it was because this person made a huge impression on my best friend.


  5. I remember “A Vampire,” Sex IN the City, Schultz, Berenstein (actually Bernstein), and “the neighborhood.” Most of these I realized lately that they looked or sounded wrong, and I questioned myself as to why I am just now noticing these things. I’ve felt crazy this last year because of my misspellings, when I used to be a good speller, now I’m constantly fighting spell check for “seperately,” “definately,” “noone” and others. I remember when “each other” was one word. I thought NZ was north east as well. All of Asia looks weird to me!

    I am sure of Sex IN the City because there’s a beauty salon in my town called Wax in the City. I brought my girlfriend there as a gift to get dolled up, and I told the owner (it was brand new and ownder did everything) that I thought her business name was really clever. She said she was in love with the show (currently running then), and so she named her salon after it. She would have named in Wax and the City, had it been called that. Earlier this year was the first time I saw the words Sex AND the City, and I scratched my head.

    I think Interview with a Vampire has tripped me out the most, because after some research, I’ve found various people, including Anne Rice, saying “A Vampire!” I read the entire series as a kid, and it was definitely A, as Anne Rice confirms in the video.


  6. Does anyone else remember the anime “Cyborg 009” being called “Android 009” in the American English dub. Because apparently it’s called “Cyborg 009” but I specifically being called “Android 009”.


  7. My favorite cartoon when i was young was “the lost cities of gold” I used to watch it everynight with my Grandma, all my friends remeber it by that name.

    The only reference I can find to it now are “the mysterious cities of gold”

    This came to my attention a few years ago. I presumed it was realesed in other countries under a different title.

    Now I’m wandering if its the Mandel Effect???

    Has anyone else raised this?


  8. definitely remember Berenstein Bears, Sex in the City, Interview with a Vampire, Jiffy, JC Penny, and also Proctor & Gamble (now Procter & Gamble), which I haven’t seen mentioned before. Does anyone else have this memory? I grew up in the Philippines and learned English reading labels on bottles, and I definitely remember the company as Proctor & Gamble.

    Another strange thing. I was texting my sister about the Berenstein Bears the other day, asking what she remembers (Berenstein), and I got a text from an unknown phone number flash on my screen as a new message. It said “what do u remember?”

    I thought, Oh, that’s strange, did my sister get a new phone number, and this was her replying?
    But when I looked at my call history, the text wasn’t there.
    Had I blinked, I would have missed it, but I saw it, and wish I had screenshot it, but the moment was gone.

    Anyone else have similar experiences?


    1. I will second the Proctor and Gamble reference. Don’t ask why, but as a kid in the early 70s I had a fascination with coupons. I remembered names very well. I also collected wacky pak stickers, parodies of commercial products. Anyone remember those ? Mike H.


    2. I’ve always read bottles, labels, everything 😉 I have never seen it as Procter & Gamble… but, sure enough, any search I do on it now comes up that way.

      I very clearly remember Proctor & Gamble as being the names of the people who founded the company. “Procter” just looks strange and unfamiliar.

      That said, I notice ALOT of people typing it that way totally obliviously when I search for it on google….


      1. Ugh, I am in agreement with only relatively few ME discrepancies and was just beginning to think that I could come to terms with those, when I find this ProctEr & Gamble thing. Definitely Proctor & Gamble.


        1. This is odd, I live in the town where gamble came from.. could have sworn it was proctor.. we have a building he donated the gamble building.. I cant have been wrong all these years.. as its a BIG part of the history of my home town..


          1. I just did a big search on Proctor and Gamble. It seems more obvious that references still are found for the ProctOr spelling. But no mention of it being changed.


    3. Since stumbling on ME, all my digital devices are simply acting hinky. While I didn’t have that exact experience, I had several login on here, and typos would appear that I hadn’t typed. While I didn’t received an unknown text, I got an unbelievable barrage of telemarketing calls often from “Daniel” on my phone. This will sound strange, and I’m no guru, but I believe something knows that we’re waking up to our new reality. I also believe it has a vested interest in keeping us collectively in the dark. I’m full blown converted, and I’m losing friends, because I feel as if even if you don’t believe in it, you should know about it. I went to a party and everyone was waving me off but when I got to Charles Schultz, which in this time stream is Schulz, people started googling. What baffles me is when someone acknowledges that’s not right. I don’t remember it like that, and then they just forget about it. What?? I don’t understand the HUMANS in this timestream. Good luck, friend.


      1. Jason, you may be right, something ,or someone wants to “keep us in the dark”. These types of thoughts are what makes me think technology , simulated universes, and artificial intelligence may have something to do with this phenomena. Mike H.


  9. I am going to leave a comment about my experiences, because I have been obsessed with this website and I want to figure this out.
    I am only 14 (born in 2000), so I have not heard of many of the things/people that this website is discussing, or have only heard about it in passing. I also do not watch the news very often, so I may have some confused memories.
    One thing that I am sure of is the Berenstein Bears. I have read nearly all of the books, and there is no possible way that it could be Berenstain. I have a very clear memory of waiting for my father to come into my room so I could read to him (I believe I was 4), and while I was waiting I just stared at the things in my room. I then tried to read the ‘weird writing’ that was the cursive. I spent a very long time reading the words over and over. There is no doubt in my mind that I am from a universe in which the books were the Berenstein Bears. These books for the most part belonged to my parents, but some were new and the dates ranged from the 70’s or 80’s to early 2000’s. It was not possible that the publishers changed the name, as they all had the same cursive words on the covers. In fact, when I found out that the spelling is different than what I remember, my world fell apart and I began scouring the web for answers. I have not seen these books since 2006.
    I do not know very much about the Challenger explosion, but I have heard about it in passing and I thought that it was in August and everyone on board died (I could be wrong, considering that it happened well before my birth, but I was told that it happened in 88’, so I may have come from a universe in which that event remained the same. I do not know enough about it to be sure if I am wrong, though).
    My mother was a very big fan of the Peanuts (and still is), and we watched that movies and shows all the time when I was a child. It was definately Charles Schultz.
    Chartreuse has always been a purple-red color (like a maroon and purple mix). I looked this up yesterday after seeing it on this website and was very confused.
    I really am unsure about definately. I have always spelled it wrong, but I believe that I shifted through universes around the time that I learned how to spell it, or possibly a little later. I just thought that I was an awful speller, but I could have learned that in an alternate universe. I still have difficulty spelling it correctly…
    I believe that it is Looney Toons, I would have noticed if it was Tunes because that would have looked strange. I am not quite sure on this one though, it seems to be a fuzzy memory but I did have one of the movies and I thought it was Toons.
    Mars has no moons, right?
    I am quite sure that I am from a universe in which Nelson Mandela died in prison. Upon first hearing about him on the news that my mother was watching (I think this was 2009), I remember that the first words I spoke after seeing the story were, “Didn’t he die before I was born?” My twin sister also agrees that she thought Mandela died long before our birth.
    The Sara Lee slogan is “Nobody does it like Sara Lee”. Honestly, I don’t remember where I heard that, but I remember it that way. I did hear the slogan somewhere, maybe from a relative or something.
    I am not quite sure about Sex and the City, as people in my area tend to pronounce ‘in’ and ‘and’ the same way, leaving of the ‘d’ in and so they sound very similar. I feel like it might be Sex in the City, but I am not 100% sure what I thought it was. It never really crossed my mind.
    I thought Shirley Temple died a long time ago.
    I am not quite sure about the Tiananmen Square boy being run over, but I thought my seventh grade teacher mentioned that he was after learning about it. That might just be my imagination, though.
    Hurricane Katrina was definately in August of 2005. (Was that when it happened in this timeline?)
    I believe these are all of the memories that I share with others on this site, but sometimes I will hear about a celebrity on the news and think that they had died before hand. I cannot think of any specific memory, but before I would chalk it up to poor memory or that I just wasn’t paying attention when I heard about them and thought they died. Now, I am questioning…
    I have only had a few of these mandela effects, myself.
    One time, when I was on youtube and listening to Taylor Swift, I found some songs that I had never heard of before with lyric videos. The only title that I remembered was The Lucky One. Now, this does not sound very strange. Taylor Swift does have a song called The Lucky One on her Red album. The only problem is, when I heard these songs, Red was not out yet. As a very avid Taylor Swift fan, I knew all of the lyrics to her songs and knew what albums she had. I don’t believe that she had released Speak Now yet, but she may have. I know that I had not yet gone to her concert for that album (2011). Red did not come out until 2012. I also remember that I was using my mother’s computer. Considering that I got a tablet to read on in 2010 and never let it out of my sight, I would have been listening to this in 2008 or 2009. I looked this up today, and now I am very confused, because I do not understand where those songs came from or why I had never heard of them at that point in any universe?
    I feel as though I noticed most of these things around 2008/2009. I noticed the changes with Mandela and this weird thing with the Taylor Swift music at about that time, and I know that the switch with the letter on the Berenst#ine Bears books happened after 2006 in my timeline, the last time I looked at the cover. I think that the last time I saw the Looney Toons and actually paid attention to how the words looked on the title was about 2008. I stopped paying attention in the few years that I watched it after the fact though, but I know recently I have seen it as Tunes. Now I have conflicting memories of that…
    So I seem to have switched universes in about 2009, and I think that my twin sister may have switched with me (not 100% sure about that, but we have a few of the same memories and we are identical, which may have something to do with it? This is just me writing out my thoughts, it may be irrelevant.)
    The only time I have ever had a NDE was when I was born, as there was a very small chance that I would survive. 2 weeks later, my heart stopped and I had to have heart surgery. I nearly died. This was in 2000 though, so if NDE’s have anything to do with universe switching, it may not in my case, or there was some sort of delay.
    I am finding myself believing in this phenomena, mostly because I cannot stand when I cannot comprehend something or have no idea what happened.
    Sorry if this is long, I had a lot on my mind…


    1. I loved all your comments – and seeing that your much younger than me, I’m 44 – and probably younger than most of us here – makes me feel more hopeful about the future.


  10. Hello fellow reality defectors! First, I would like to say thank you to Fiona for running such a wonderful website, and filtering out the comments that make no positive impact on the discussion. For a little background info, I am 25, from the U.S., have always been interested in ‘out there’ concepts, and like many others was led here as a result of the Berenst*in conundrum. I too recall an E not an I. Again, like many others, I have always been a fantastic speller and KNOW it was not -stain. I almost feel compelled to say it was actually Bernstein, but I’ll chalk that up to spelling it like I pronounced it. However, there is no way it was -stain.

    Moving on. I have read every comment on this site over the past few days or so, and there are many I recall different from this reality, and many concurrent with this reality. The two that stick out the most to me are the bears, and Thanksgiving. It was the THIRD Thursday, for a long time until recently. I’ve (at the risk of institutionalization) quizzed various people about these things, and they all seem to agree that it was spelled differently/on the third, UNTIL I say it never was. They then brush it off.

    Another I recall differently, was the Tianemen square incident. To me, that was before I was born(1990) and it was ONE tank, and he did not get run over. Weird.

    Thinking back on my life after reading through these comments, I can think of multiple times where I could have easily died. I also would talk to people not there when I was younger, hear things nobody else did, and lucid dream/astral travel (I still do occasionally).

    One more thing, and you may edit this out if you wish Fiona, but I can’t help but think of this when reading these comments and contemplating multiple dimensions. I have taken hallucinogenic drugs three times in my life, always for the purpose of self expansion. The first time, on salvia divinorum (an ancient plant used this way for millennia) I witnessed my surroundings being split into a grid. Then, eventually, square by square, I was left with only black. The next thing I know, I am on what seems to be an operating table in a hospital like room, with beings (not human, not alien, just beings) standing over me and getting the feeling they were astounded and displeased that I could see them. BAM. I was back 100% reality. This was before I had even thought about multiple dimensions.

    Thank you, and happy travels!


  11. I was sure of diffrent ending to The Outsiders .movie. This ending has been proven and debunked over and over again


      1. Yes,
        Youtube currently has an alternate ending, to the movie however in my realities it has been proven and debunked over and over. Also, I have been surprised to hear Nancy Reagan is still alive no less than 3 times. It just won’t sink in! i was wondering if anyone else reports that particularly. She died about a year or so after her husband
        On issues like Eli Whitney, Brian Dennehy, David Soul, Nancy Reagan the dates of Dom Delouise and Jack Palances death and the location of New Zealand I trust my own memories more than current reality(the internet).


  12. This has blown my mind…. it’s A Vampire. In the city. Berenstein. Freddie and Sarah Michelle divorced about 7 years ago. It was a big thing… I had to look up that they were still together and I still don’t believe it. Challenger happened for me in April 1985…. I remember specific circumstances because of a family birth in March of that year. Eli Whitney is white now???? Ummm when did that happen? Thanksgiving??? Always the third week… last year I was very confused. Fruit loops and Schultz. The baby was never found and someone pretended to be the long lost Lindbergh baby years later….. I need to start paying attention… I’m losing it.


  13. Hello, I’ve been reading through this website and I have a few things I’ve noticed that have been altered as well. I am 27 years old, and used to have a photographic memory. I do not have any psychological illnesses. When i was a child i used to be able to memorize entire books just by someone reading me the words. Now my memory is completely ordinary in every way. I had scarlet fever three times as a child and my mother thinks that ‘might’ be the cause of it.

    Here are a few of the things that i remember that have been changed.

    Jiffy peanut butter (this was the only peanut butter i ate as a child and it really disturbed me to see it called Jif instead)

    BerenstEin bears (I had dozens of these books all of which were BerenstEin. I distinctly remember having an argument with my older sister on whether it was pronounced St-een or St-ine. When I dug out all the old books, sure enough they all said BerenstAin)

    Thunderbird (My dad was a great lover of all strange things and he used to buy tons of books like Ripley’s. I remember him showing me the picture of the Thunderbird and telling me it was a half bird, half-dinosaur, the last of its kind. I looked at it quite often because i was really into dinosaurs at the time. I’ve looked through all my dad’s old books and i can’t find it.)

    52 States (I was taught in school that the united states had 52 states counting Hawaii and Alaska as 51 and 52. No matter how much i try to remember, i can’t seem to recall the extra state names. I even did a art project of the american flag and i remember commenting that the extra two stars were hard to fit in properly. My teacher then showed me his copy of the flag which had the extra two on the right side. 52 seems like an awfully strange number for me to mistake since 50 is a lot easier to remember. I was SO confused when i found out there were only 50…)

    Places changing (When i was a child, the layout of my church changed completely from one week to the next. I remember staring at a wall wondering where the hallway went that used to be there. This confusion lasted many many years because i was in that church a lot due to my parents involvement there and knew every inch of the church like the back of my hand. We’d never attended any other church and my parents had no idea what i was talking about when i asked where the other part of the church went. It wasn’t until i was older that i learned the church was SUPPOSED to get an expansion but never got the funds.)

    Another place that changed was a small business petstore that used to be in the uptown area of my city. I distinctly remember going there 2 or 3 times as a teenager. It was a converted lower level of an apartment building that you had to walk up 5 or 6 stone steps to get to the door. It was run by a young overweight guy who was obsessed with fish. The whole front room was nothing but fishtanks and small animals such as hamsters and mice, were in the back room behind a red curtain of beads. According to everyone, this place did not exist. I even walked back many times to the exact spot it used to be but there’s nothing there except apartment buildings. This was a place one of my friends showed me and not somewhere my parents would have ever allowed me to go because the neighborhood was very seedy. My friend had no memory of going there with me.I have no explanation why i would know this specific apartment buildings location, if it was nothing but a dream…)

    Movie i saw before they came out:

    Martian Child (I watched this movie with my mother when i was still in highschool and remember hating the ending. When the advertisements came out a few years later, I was really confused. I asked my mom why they were re-releasing this movie and she had no idea what i was talking about. I told her we’d already seen it but she didn’t believe me. I then told her the whole plot of the movie including the ending and forced her to go see it with me on opening night. She was flabbergasted and was certain I’d tricked her somehow. She still doesn’t believe me that we’d already seen that movie.)

    Billy Graham died ( I remember my parents forcing me to watch the boring funeral on tv. All i remember about it was lots of blue decorations. It was a huge deal for them because they really looked up to him.)

    John Goodman died of a heart attack. I’m not certain of the year but my sister was upset about it because she loved him on Rosanne. Until reading on this site, i wasn’t aware he was still alive!

    3 bombs were dropped on Japan :Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Nishikasugai District, Aichi.

    There’s actually quite a bit more that I remember, that no one else seems to. Most of them are personal experiences however. I’ve been sooo confused about all of this and i’m glad that i’m not the only one.


  14. I’m 64 now but as a kid I distinctly remember the TV show Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea as a movie called Journey to the Bottom of the Sea. After some research I found there was a prequel movie called Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea but not JOURNEY. I distinctly remember my summer of 6th grade and seeing JOURNEY to the Bottom of the Sea.


  15. There was a funeral for Billy Graham…. today he is alive. It was Gordon’s fisherman…. I bought them for years for my kids… I noticed gortons about a year ago and thought they had a company buy out. I remember the commercials and jingle for it to…

    It’s Jim and Tammy Faye baker. Not bakker. This I know for a fact because Tammy Faye remarried a messner in my family and they built a church here in Wichita ks. I was shocked to learn she has passed in this timeline. That’s something that would have been a big to do in my family.

    There was a flesh colored crayon. The crayola crayon factory was in Winfield ks and we went every year on field trips where they gave out free big boxes. 64 counts… plus you could buy 24 colored boxes of the same color and I always got the flesh colored crayons. (They did discontinue colors though)
    And the Winfield plant went out of business about ten years ago.

    In my personal life, I remember in one night I went from one color brown, to a reddish brown and thought something was wrong with my shampoo.

    Hitler never had blue eyes and Mussolini is completely different guy. The tank boy… got ran down. He was college aged not this man I’m seeing on Google.

    I have dreams of going to my deceased grandparents house and finding a tunnel a go through in the basement. It’s not scary yet it is. I don’t have a current cell phone… my cell phone is an outdated model thAt cannot send or take pictures. I can only call and text on it. I refuse to update it for some reason even though I’m not scared of technology and I’m currently typing on my kindle.

    New Zealand was north of Australia. I had a pen pal in Australia for over twenty years… now I cannot find her and her letters/pictures I kept in a keepsake box are gone.
    Now Australia is practically touching new genea???

    Please keep sharing things because my life is starting to make more sense now.


  16. I definitely remember watching “Friends” and randomly seeing cast members of Cats placed in scenes, and the actors would just go through the scene like they weren’t even there. I specifically remember ross standing between the t.v. and the couch talking to Rachel who was in the kitchen. As he’s talking there’s someone in full costume as an orange cat sitting on the couch with his hands on his lap. I asked my sister about it at the time and she said they do it all time. We thought it was just a strange promo for the play. The memory is so real that i’ve spent countless hours searching for some evidence of it online. I can’t find any reference of hidden Cats cast members in the filming of Friends.


  17. Last week I took a trip from my home in Olympia, WA to Vancouver, BC. While there, I noticed the home improvement chain was labeled “The Home Depot” instead of “Home Depot.” Now, having returned to the States, every one I see, and online, it’s “The Home Depot.” I have never noticed the “The” before. I have to admit, it is really bugging me. Thanks!


    1. I don’t remember there being a “the” in the name of Home Depot either. I went to their site which is homedepot without the “the” and their logo looks really squished with the new addition. Weird.


  18. I haven’t gotten this far through the comments yet, but lots of people post about movies coming out and they remember explicitly that they had come out before. My boyfriend and I were watching TV one day and the trailer for Straight Outta Compton came on, and we were completely baffled. This movie came out already! We both remembered seeing a trailer for it during the beginning trailers of none other than The Candidate (not Campaign). I’m not sure if anyone else has had this experience with that movie since I haven’t gotten to current comments yet.

    Also, a few days ago my phone (Galaxy S5) which I swype on, instead of typing individual letters, decided that everybody was no longer a word and my Microsoft Word started to correct it as well… apparently it’s two words.

    Also happened to me years ago with the word definitely vs. definately. Still can’t explain that and it creeps me out.


  19. I too was originally brought here by the Bernstein/berenstain debate (interesting to note, My phone auto filled and capitalized Berenstein, but I had to force spell

    Jiffy peanut butter. This changed for me around 1998. It drove me crazy and I remember having an argument with my friends who insisted it was always Jif, when in my world it changed overnight. I am certain of this, it’s bothered me for years.

    Spellings I learned: dilemna, definately, noone, seperately, rhythmn. I was a great speller but I struggle with these words now. I’ve also noticed in the past couple years that many people are misspelling definitely as defiantly. My thought is these people are attempting to spell it definately, with an A, and auto correct is changing it to defiantly instead of definitely.

    Puce was a dull green/yellow/grey.
    A beautiful day in the neighborhood.
    Interview with A vampire
    Sex in the city

    The sky looks different to me: I can’t see the man in the moon anymore. I agree it looks upside down or somehow strange. The sun is brighter, whiter, even on overcast days it is blinding. Sunsets are different; less colorful and varied. It seems the sky darkens all the same down to the horizon most nights now. Also during the day everything seems hazy to me, as if there are more particles in the air that make everything look dull.

    These are my main ones. I have days where I distinctly feel that nothing is real. Other days (rare) things look so vibrant and even smell more real…the colors are startlingly vivid, to the point where I just stare at trees or the sky. I don’t understand.


  20. I’m curious if there is a link somewhere to the Duggers? While I don’t really watch the show I can’t help but see them in the media all the time. I distinctly remember the show going to “21 kids and Counting”. They had a baby after Josie that was premature and had problems but lived. I remember reading an article all about it in a People Magazine at a DRs office very clearly and then wondering later what happened to her. I hadn’t been paying any attention to that family until the molestation scandal and then all the sudden it seemed to me that it was back to 19 Kids and Counting and no last baby.


  21. There’s a song that’s been really annoying my for sometime now, “Left Outside Alone” by Anastacia. The first time it aired in 2004 on the radio I was able to sing along with it, and I commentated to my mother who was driving the car at the time, that it was a really old song and I hadn’t heard it since I was a kid. But she told me it was a new song that had just came out and she didn’t remember it at all.

    I clearly (100%) remember it being sung by a black lady with an afro in a glittery dress in an old black and white grainy video. How else was I able to sing along with a song that had only just been written and released.

    It’s been bugging me for years until I found out about all this. So I started looking around, and I ‘definatly’ remember that spelling. Though I’ve always assumed it was an English/American single letter spelling difference (like colour/color) and as computer systems tend to use American spelling that was why it changed it (I’m in England). And I also remember Interview with A Vampire and Sex in the City (was in high school/college so fellow teenages always made references to ‘knowing what they are up to’ lol )

    The Volvo logo too (I always thought it was a circle with a V inside joined at the top and bottom) I was really surprised when I looked it up. But I do definatly remember Mars always have 2 moons (captured asteroids) orbiting it, as I’ve always been a fan of Greek/Roman mythological characters.


    1. One of Volvo’s old logo fits your description:

      The P1800 was a very popular car for Volvo and was their U.S. breakout car – so that may be why people are remembering it wrong (as well that they only recently started to make the alchemist symbol for iron stand out in their grills and elsewhere).


      1. looncraz, I’m approving this comment because you provided a possible explanation. Ordinarily, the phrase “people are remembering it wrong” would be enough to send a comment directly to the Deleted Comments bin. History is littered with anecdotes about people who held onto outdated ideas and labeled improvements “wrong.” This site isn’t for people with memory deficits; it’s for people who share alternate (and generally consistent) memories that can’t be explained in tired, old ways.


  22. Thanksgiving now has me thoroughly confused. I’ve always thought it was on the third Thursday on November. However, my mom’said birthday is on the 20th, and my sister’s is on the 27th, and while my sister”s birthday has fallen on Thanksgiving, my mom’said never has. That would be consistent with the 4th Thursday, so it seems like I somehow have always just been wrong. I’m wondering how many of these wrong memories are due to a common factor, like a bad textbook?

    On a different note, someone once noted that the Mandela Effect couldn’t possibly be real because no one had noticed something major in their personal lives had changed. Well, if, say, your house had suddenly changed places, I doubt very much you’d just laugh it off and post it on this website. If the Mandela Effect is real, then there are people out there who have experienced something like that and who are, no doubt, seeing a therapist and/or medication.

    As a matter of fact, something like that did happen to me. When I was in high school, someone mentioned a rumor they heard about a guy named Greg, and I thought, “Wait. Isn’t Greg dead?” I then became briefly confused and wondered why on Earth I thought he was dead. Greg actually did die a couple of months later.


  23. Hi, Fiona! It’s me again. I think there’s been another change that I hope others have noticed. Maybe you have noticed it as well?

    I remember Kathy Lee Gifford. I don’t know too much about her, but since I liked her name, I pretty much just learned how to spell it by looking at it. Also, if you type “Kathy” into Google, all of the suggestions are “Kathy Lee Gifford”. However, according the the news as well as Google search results, her name is and always has been spelled “Kathie Lee Gifford”.

    Nothing big, obviously, but still. I’m POSITIVE it was Kathy, not Kathie.


    1. Wow, Kaleb, that’s a great one! Thanks for mentioning it. I actually looked it up at Wikipedia and on Google, the “Kathie” spelling seemed so odd. I’ve never paid much attention to her, but I really expected to see (in her bio) that she’d changed the spelling in recent years, due to a Screen Actors Guild conflict or something.


  24. There is an automatically generated Facebook page, liked by over 32,000 people, entitled “The Berenstein Bears,” but everything in the description says Berenstain. I wonder how that works?


    1. Sarah, it’s just someone’s auto-generated page. They probably created the FB page name using the spelling they were used to, but they’ve populated it with content from around the Web, and all of that has the -stain spelling. (Also, many auto-generated pages are “liked” by fake FB profiles. People buy “likes” at places like Fiverr.com. At the moment, I can get over 3k “likes” for $5. Kind of ridiculous, really.)


  25. Am I the only one who doesn’t remember Lee Harvey Oswald being shot by Jack Ruby? I had never heard of Jack Ruby until I looked it up just now. The way I remember it, there was a manhunt for Oswald and I think they chased him into a barn, and maybe he was shot by agents there, my memories aren’t super clear, but I know I hadn’t heard that he was shot at point blank range by this guy while in police custody. Anyone else have different memories of this?


  26. Also, my memories line up with a lot of people’s memories on here

    -Puce was a rather disgusting shade of green
    -I had a crayon, from a brand new box of crayons, in the 80’s labelled “Flesh”
    -Barbara Streisand, not Barbra
    -BerenstEin bears
    -MLK was shot with a handgun at close range
    -52 states
    -Charles SchulTz. (I remember this very clearly because my dad’s girlfriend at the time worked for a company that made merchandise for Garfield, Fido Dido, the Peanuts character and others, and I used to get all sorts of free stuff, and I had quite a few stickers, cards, toys and such with Charles Schultz’ name on it. I used to look at it thinking it was such a neat name, with the “tz” at the end)
    -Rod Sterling, not Serling
    -Jiffy peanut butter, not Jif. I remember being shocked when I saw that they had changed it to Jif. Now it turns out it was always Jif.
    -I also remember the sun being a lot more yellow as opposed to white, and a lot less intense.

    The geography thing scares me. I clearly remember Australia being way further away from Indonesia, sort of away and on its own. I remember New Zealand being one island, not two, and being North West of Australia. I remember Japan being more south, closer to China, not next to Korea. I have never heard of Andorra (now situated between Spain and France). Poland was never that big, nor was Cuba. Sardinia and Corsica were never that big. Sicily was also smaller. Greenland and Iceland were closer in size. Portugal was not on the western side of Spain, but located under France. Sri Lanka was south of India. Talledega was in Florida, not Alabama

    It’s probably worth noting that I’ve never had a NDE, but I have had incidents with ghosts, which now I think maybe were really me seeing through the “veil” for lack of a better word, into another reality. I’m starting to think that reality is not the concrete thing we’ve assumed it is, and is in fact a fluid thing that fluctuates randomly.


    1. Talladega was definitely in Florida for me too. NZ was NE of Australia to me, but agree with pretty much everything else you remember. The more I look, the more the whole world has changed.


    2. What? Portugal was located under France? Wait wait wait wait wait.

      So Portugal wasn’t west of Spain but instead was on the east side of Spain and in the south of France? Are you sure about this?

      I’ve heard most of the other ones you mentioned and even remember some of them myself but this is the first I’ve ever heard this about Portugal.

      That is just way too crazy. Is this supposed to be some kind of a joke?


      1. Xenoverse, these days I’m not sure about anything. Reality seems so tenuous, but I could almost swear that Portugal was under France. I will say that it definitely was NOT where it is now, on the western side of Spain. I’m not sure if I already commented about this, but I also remember Madagascar being largely unpopulated, not the heavily populated place that it is in this reality, and it definitely didn’t have a huge urban centre that almost looks like something from the Netherlands, like it does now.


  27. WOW. so glad i was led to this page.. what a great new topic for me to research and learn about. i just did a write up about Memories and Monuments/Memorials.. i believe they store our consciousness / memories within those monuments and can use them or store them… just a theory.. if you have the time just check out the write up i did: http://sphereboy.com/2015/08/memorial-memory-induction-weaponry/

    i really appreciate any feedback or opinions, or a simple glance. really proud of my findings and wish to share.

    much love and definitely will be back and catch up on this mandela effect … wow blessed.


    1. Hey Rob, I checked out your website. I think there’s some fantastic information you have there (specially the interesting patent for musical instrument-design using granite)! But I have to say: it’s not presented in a format that created a strong narrative arc for me, or led me to any conclusions, or to understand your conclusions (admittedly, I did a quick visit), so I didn’t really understand what point you were trying to get across or how these granite memorials are related to stainless steel ones, and how induction heating fit in. (Though I see that you’re bringing together electromagnetic heating -resonant circuits, piezoelectric effects in quartz – oscillation, the sound-enhancement effects of granite – vibration … so there’s a whisper of a link, but I’d love to read more, on your website, about how you see these being linked, and how they relate to consciousness). I think there may be something interesting underlying the relationship between materials used for monuments and their effects on sound, magnetic fields that some humans can detect, etc, so I really wanted to understand more about the links that YOU see and are suggesting.
      My feedback: maybe adding a few paragraphs at the top to explain what your theory is, and how the information (images, videos, etc) you provide below is tied together? It seems like there could be something fascinating in here, but maybe if you could fill in some of the gaps for the visitor… ?


  28. This has been bugging me for years.. I am 42 bonr in 1973, and when i was growing up i saw a cartoon in the UK called BOD. a very surreal and odd cartoon, if you had seen it you would remember it, but a few years ago i started asking my friends and only a few actually remembered it., this could because they didnt see it so i said ok.. but recently i have been reading some books, and i have noticed the entire storyline is different, once again i thought it was imagination.. Being in the UK we never really got the BerenSTEIN bears as a tv show but the ones i remember was spelt that way..

    theres another thing that i thought was my imagination.. I remember seeing a remake of a foreign language film, and saw the original, there was a cliff and a car and the car went off an got stuck on a tree it was too far down for them to climb up and too far to climb down… I have a vague memory that mandela did die in the 90’s but i also know he did die recently.. Its odd..


  29. I have not seen this posted yet, please forgive me if it has already been brought up. The topic is Poland, and the northeast corner known as Kaliningrad Oblast. I recall this entire region being Polish, however, last year I noticed it marked as Russian. I thought perhaps that my memory was of inaccurate Cold War maps denoting this as Poland and that modern maps were just now up to date, however, when I went back to look at old reference material and maps from the 1980s, it has been Russian all along? Does anyone else remember this region belonging to Poland and not Russia?


  30. Hello all, so glad I found this site. I’ve studied almost all comments in the last week. I believe most are so true and agree with many. I do think some are false memories or mis-interpreted. Only a few though. For instance, John goodman’s character on Roseanne died. I never saw the end of the series so if I heard he died I could’ve mistaken that. I saw many people think he died but no one bringing up that possibility. One for me is that I thought Wizard of Oz had two different scenes when they were talking with the wizard, but looking back I think it is a false memory from childhood. However, here is my reality….”A”vampire, definAtely, Richard Chamberlain and Louie Anderson dead, tank Boy not dead, Mandela and Graham Not dead years ago. What I’m confused about (because in the past I was very good with dates) for YEARS I was convinced challenger was ’84. But a few years ago it was brought to my attention it was ’86. I went through my timeline of where I was when I heard about it and, yes, it had to be ’86! So why did I always think ’84? VERY unlike me to mix up something like that (then). Now I mix up years and dates more easily. Things that have me off-kilter, Sex in/and the city. I have no idea. I thought it was IN. Lindbergh baby I thought wasn’t found, but I second guess myself and then remember oh it was found. Or maybe not I really don’t know. I watched Charlie Brown Halloween last year and thought it had a different ending. No NDEs for me but when I was about 20 I started getting little seizures. I’m interested in why these certain things. I never gave a thought about Louie Anderson, didn’t really care for him. Liked chamberlain but he wasn’t in my realm of thought. On a FB page I reminisce with old schoolmates and we all have the same memories of places and people in our childhood so why do these very specific things (some huge like Mandela, some not so huge like A vampire or Richard Chamberlain) stick out from the millions of things in our memory? This is a mind blower and game changer. Finally it’s Berenstein. Why does NoOne seem to remember it being the other?


    1. Meret, that’s my time frame, as well. The Segway company says no, but for me to remember what I do, I had to have been living near the inventor, and I know those dates (when I lived in that part of NH) don’t fit the company’s timeline for the product. Very odd.


  31. I’m sorry I’ve fallen into the matrix and have become almost completely engrossed in this theory now… and I’ve started to really think about events in my own personal experience.

    I was very ummm psychic as a child… I would tell ppl what would happen before it happened… many friends would play games to test me even… like hiding things and asking where they were etc… I never failed. I predicted the fall of the ussr in Reagan’s first term when we were still very much in a cold war…just too much to type out but you get the drift.

    When I was 16 years old(1990), I was in a bad car accident and the only spot in the car that wasn’t an accordion was were I was sitting. I walked away with a broken clavicle. Afterwards, my abilities started to decline but I thought well I’m getting older maybe things are changing…

    When I was delivering my 5th child, I did die for 2 minutes. They bought me back. That was 2008, and I noticed things were different but couldnt really figure out what. Plus I had had 2 blood transfusions and I swear I could feel the person’s blood in me (like I was part of someone else for awhile) it’s hard to put into words. I also started picked my up things “psychically” again…

    I just so happened to stroll across someone talking about the mandela effect on ats, and how Australia and New Zealand were not right and my world went into a tail spin…. yes!! Yes , I’m not alone experiencing this. I’m not a crazy madhatter!! This is happening to other ppl too!!! Now that I’m looking at things through a different lens though, I’m picking up on so much more going on around me that I’ve never noticed or I’d just write off.

    I am a night nurse, and tonight we had someone go “missing” out of their room… we found her in another empty bed in a room 2 doors down… now normally I wouldn’t make a big deal, ppl get confused and turned around. However, I decided to watch the video tape of the hall to see exactly when this person did that… started from the time she was checked on until we found her in the other room and s he never once came out of that room and into the hallway… my co workers and I watched it 3x. They started coming up with weird theories but you had to go into the one and only hallway to switch rooms. Normally, wouldn’t have even checked this out!! I have no idea what’s happening but I know I’m deep in it now.


  32. This comment is concerning a certain cartoon, Ned’s Newt. We watched it in french (Québec) and there was an episode where a boy called Eddie(or Eddy) loved to lick bridges. In french, I remember they were singing “Eddie le lécheur de ponts(Eddie the bridge licker)”. Strange thing, my mom, my brother and I remember is very well, but can’t find any info about it online… Anyone knows about this?


  33. I must admit I was brought here by the Berenstein vs. Berenstain thingamajig. I was rather skeptical of all this– I could easily mistake one for the other, until I read something that absolutely floored me. Charles Lindburgh’s (I had always spelt his name with a “u”) baby was never found, I was sure of it. I remember it being one of the great mysteries of the 20th century… people claiming to be the Lindburgh baby, jokes about the Lindburgh baby being discovered along with Sasquatch. I distinctly remember a joke (maybe a Simpsons episode) where the Lindburgh baby was discovered misfiled under “b” or something. I remember thinking, “Wherever he is now, he’s got to be old.”

    I was a kid at the time, so I could be misremembering things, but what I find oddest is, after some research, I realized most people who remember the baby being missing spelled it with a “u”, when apparently it was always spelt with an “e”. I’ve always been a good speller and I feel like I wouldn’t make a mistake like that.

    Reading the wikipedia article on the baby was crazy. The baby was discovered dead in 1932. For me, it was like reading an article casually stating the truth of the JFK assassination. It was very surreal.

    There are other things. I remember reading that the Tianamen square guy got run over, but I never saw the video. I remember Berenstein not Berenstain. And Japan isn’t where I remember it being… it’s very close to Korea, where I remember it much further out into the ocean, with Sakhalin barely touching Russia and the southern island quite far from South Korea. This whole thing with the Lindburgh baby has me questioning whether I’m really misremembering all this stuff.

    There was another event in my life. My dad told me about a time I was nearly killed when an iron bar struck through our car window. For the life of me, I can’t remember anything like that. It may have been so traumatizing I put it out of my mind, but I wonder now if either me or my dad were going through the Mandela effect.


    1. William Martin, that’s a good catch! I hadn’t noticed the consistency of spellings — Lindburgh (or Lindburg) among those who recall the baby not being found, as opposed to Lindbergh (or Lindberg) among those whose memories match the current timeline. Thanks!


      1. Fiona and William – I’m not trying to disprove your theory, William, but I knew I had written a comment about the Lindbergh kidnapping early on this website. I was curious as to how I had spelled the name because unlike some spellings, I don’t have a strong feeling about it either way. I found my comment from late June 2014. I thought the baby had never been found and I spelled the name Lindbergh. But that could just be because I prefer the way it looks with the ‘e’ – more graceful somehow.


        1. No problem, Julia, and I’m glad to see you back here!

          William’s comment was a good reminder to me that I need to keep subtle patterns in mind — spellings, relative to memories — as I read comments and emails about this topic. (I should probably create a Lindbergh/Lindburgh baby article, just to see if other patterns emerge.)

          And, of course, your graceful spelling reference is appreciated, and sort of echoes the gray/grey comments we’ve had, as well. (I’m wondering if synesthesia has any correlation to ME. Interesting thought, and just odd enough to pique my interest.)

          Cheerfully, Fiona


          1. Hauptmann was put to sleep in April 1936 for the murder of Lindbergh baby,at the same time Hindenburg flights started.The period of April/May 1936 saw two of the greatest affairs related to aviation.So bergh and burg coincided.


  34. Hi, Fiona. Thank you so much for this website. I’ve been lurking around here reading the past couple of weeks. My first realization of the Mandela Effect was with the Berenst*in Bears (It’s an E!!). I was thinking of posting a comment on some of the memories, and I’ll still probably do that later, but I think I’ve just found one that I haven’t seen mentioned yet.

    It concerns the Christ the Redeemer statue overlooking Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. I remember it being absolutely colossal, but apparently it’s now 30 metres/98 feet. (38 metres/125 feet including the pedestal.) I’d swear it was something like 3 times that size. I was just looking at some pictures of it, and shaking my head at how puny it looked.

    I had just seen it maybe 2 weeks ago in some movie or TV program, and after wracking my brains, realized it was an episode of the new series, Zoo, which partly took place in Rio. They showed the statue, of course, and yes, perspectives and angles can be misleading when something’s been filmed, but it seemed every bit as massive as I remembered. Only, now it’s not. I wonder if any one else remembers the larger statue.


  35. Greetings!

    I must say that these posts have given me a tremendous amount to think about. I would like to clarify two items.

    1) There was a “flesh” colored crayon. It was renamed “peach” in 1968 due to the inherent racism in the “flesh” color being that of a white person.

    2) The Polish territory and whether it belonged to Russia: it depends on when the map was from. Russia in the past 10-15 years has invaded Georgia & Ukraine. There are boundary disputes constantly.



    1. I was born in 1964. According to all the websites I’ve read, Flesh was changed to Peach in 1962. I remember using a Flesh crayon well into the 1970s, all through elementary school. So either they were using up a LOT of old crayon stock (unlikely, when they could just change the labels), or else the timelines have changed.


  36. Boy I feel like stepping in the middle of an AA meeting or something. Do we have one of those around or has the name changed? All joking aside….it is pretty serious and we better nail this down. All of us can’t be this stupid or dumb. Having read just the previous comments about all of this and beginning to write all of it down…and then checking it out on Google….and other places where I distinctly remember things. I too have a photographic memory….I can recite character’s lines from plays….movies….tv shows….I was once a child actor. Ricky Shcroeder’s agent Silver Spoons and Lori Loughlin’s Agent from Full House was my agent. I was that good…..but never made it. I am completely flummoxed by all of it….the thing that has me most bothered is the Chic Fil A….that’s what I remember. It has never been Chick Fil A…..something is definitely awry here….or we have all been duped in the grandest experiment this side of the galaxy. I am almost afraid to go to sleep now for fear of something else being changed. Either this is one big cruel joke…or I have been violated…and yes this would be a human rights violation for me because it tampers with my conscious…which is linked to my freedom. If we aren’t free to remember then I need to begin the process of tearing down every foundation ever built upon yet again….and yes that would be God included. This is the sort of thing that shakes faith to the core. Folks…I hate to say this we are entering a phase of unknowns or as Rush Limbaugh says…UNCHARTERD TERRITORY….and I am not even sure if anything I write is the way it should be. I know all of my politicians…again smart memory….I also know that Barak Obama in 2008 burst on the scene….and I…many others had never heard of him. Manchurian Candidate is what most people from my timeline called him….still to this day with so much controversy over the birth certificate and where he is from….either the mass hypnosis that we are under means we are finally waking up….and beginning to see for the first time. Then again I don’t know. I know this…Google is a beast or a head of the beast….so for all the images to be like this…it has me floored. I can’t explain it. “IMAGE OF THE BEAST” I said many years ago with my dad that if they ever got to the point with time travel and alternate universes it would be the biggest game changer if they could do it….and I contend and always said back that would be the one thing God could not allow because in essence they could try to destroy the cross and everything it stood for in the history of time….if they have had this break through with Cern or TLHC then the Rapture of the Church must not be far out….God cannot lie……but then again….with all of this on the Mandela Effect I would also say he wouldn’t allow our reality’s or consciousness began to believe a different reality. Simply put an alternate reality either would mean more sin taking place on a grand scale or less sin…..and God doesn’t tolerate sin. If you thought your reality would be hijacked what would you do….commit suicide…begin to drink….drugs….okay this is way too deep. The last point I would make on this….and I am really going to have to do some more thinking before I post again….we are at a point that if you are a Christian…believe in Jesus….the Cross as a believer….it’s time like never before because if CERN opens a portal to the Gates of Hell….all bets are off and your going to wish you had your Bible and Your Mommy!


    1. Adam,

      You raise some good questions, along with some topics (religion-specific) that I usually avoid. However, I’m approving this because — hoping this doesn’t lead to arguments — your comments started me thinking: Does the Mandela Effect have any bearing on why some people succeed when others — with equal talent and similar opportunities — don’t? Moving in and out of realities, are some people in another timestream when an important meeting (in their “home reality,” if there is one) took place, and they missed it? Or, do some people slide into this reality from one where their success was virtually assured, and they remain in that flow so the possibility of failure never crosses their minds. And, do others pick up on that energy and contribute to it, like a Catch-22 of success?

      Today, I may have woken up in a philosophical mindset, but your comment renewed questions I’ve had about the long-term effects of individual Mandela Effect moments. (In Dr. Who terms, whether past or recent experiences in an alternate reality could — consciously or subconsciously — cause Donna Noble to make a different choice in traffic, thereby changing everything in her life.)

      And, if alternate realities aren’t all on the same calendar (maybe it’s 2015 here, but 2020 in another one), whether hidden/buried memories from another future affect choices we make, here.

      Of course, it’s all whimsy and speculation, but it’s kind of fascinating.



      1. Thanks for the reply Fiona….I am expanding on your topics as well….but it’s going to take some time to digest all of it…it’s like a new layer being added or erased. I am at lunch today with my father…and we are going over all this….in his realm at 66 most of this doesn’t phase him….I told him it should. However I am beginning to think it’s dangerous to not be institutionalized…..and looked upon as a freak….with everything in the country messed up right now until we can get some sanity….I am not sure the best direction to take. I will say a couple of quick things that have really shocked me. Kurt Cameron was an actor and I remember following him for many years in his acting career. So I came home from lunch before beginning my descent back and church. I got to meet Kurt about two years ago at my church for a marriage revival seminar. My dad posted on his facebook the photo of me and him…..he labeled the photo Kurt Cameron in windows on the computer. Which is the way I remember it…..now it’s Kirk Cameron in this reality when I just picked up his book to put it way. I called my dad and asked him if it was Kurt or Kirk….and I ran a test by him and my mom. I said “Kurt Cameron’s a great guy” They both responded yes he is…I made sure I pronounced it distinctly and clearly. Here’s where the problem is…..if I had pronounced his name with that wording I should have been corrected right off the bat….parents do that. So when I ran that test and then told my dad after word he flipped and he can’t understand…he’s trying to say it must be a marketing gig. I said no….I said dad if it was Kirk the way it is now….I should have been stopped dead in my tracks.

        There are two verses in the Bible which I need some more time to digest….if you haven’t come across these…I’d look into them. I can’t go back and ask Kurt because he would always know his name and it would be Kirk. Gen 11:6….Daniel 7:25….and I Corinthians 14:33

        Those three verses above will flip you out too…so sit down and get a bite of Chic Fil A or something…..it’s nutty. The only way I can postulate all of this is to go back to that frame of reference and if it’s not information being transformed….then I submit they are messing with the realities of people living it now….We are in dangerous territory. I’d love to hear your thoughts on these as well….keep the faith….were going to have our Mandela Moment…..


        1. Adam, those are some interesting thoughts.

          I’ve edited out some of the deeply personal info you shared, for two reasons: 1} I have a “gut feeling” that I should, and 2) I’m trying to focus discussions on memories we share (as opposed to uniquely personal memories I’ve approved in the past), since the comment threads are getting absurdly long.

          Nevertheless, the girl you mentioned was either in a different reality than you during some earlier communications, or she has issues to sort out, herself. Odd, but there could be other explanations.

          The Kirk/Kurt topic is new to this site, and an interesting one since you have multiple reasons to know his name — from church and from mutual friends in the acting field. He’s always had a very high profile in print media, so that’s a very odd one.



        2. Huh, another one. Is it wrong that I’m starting to take this in my stride?

          Yep, I’m going with ‘Kurt Cameron’ too. I was vaguely aware of him as the Left Behind actor; had to Google and it’s Kirk now. Google doesn’t even know of A ‘Kurt Cameron’, but I’m sure that was what it was.

          Kirk Cameron doesn’t feel right in my mind. Like Captain Kirk?

          Oh, by the way, the global stock markets are going crazy. I am SO not surprised by that right now.

          I’ve been feeling all week that a whole lot of things are changing right now. Maybe a lot of people feeling that is what makes markets do odd things?


          1. Hmm, on reflection I feel like maybe it was Kirk Cameron for me after all. Kurt Russell and Kurt Cobain are still Kurts though, and they’re more familiar to me than Cameron is.

            Kurt resonated with me for some reason, but it might have been just that Cameron sounds like Cobain.


            1. Interesting observation, Nate. I wasn’t a huge fan of Nirvana, but Cobain’s death struck me as being odd, and out of place in this reality. Several things didn’t add up, without getting into whether it was suicide, murder, or something in-between. I keep expecting him to turn up, alive, and I have no reason to think that since — as I said — I was barely interested in his life or music, at the time. (That’s not about my taste in music, but what was going on in my life at the time. Lots of international travel and family responsibilities, and other things absorbing my attention.)

              I guess I’m trying to articulate something about the events in this timestream that — from the start — don’t seem to fit this reality. Sure, there are tragedies that we don’t want to believe, but this is something else. It’s an incongruity. Something that seems a radical departure from an established pattern, even a quirky one. It’s easy to chalk them up to oddities, coincidences, and so on, but some of them have a quality that stands out.

              The weird thing is, as I look back on alternate memories: Mandela’s earlier death seemed “normal” at the time. Tragic, but not a surprise or anything especially incongruous. For me, Cobain’s death falls more into the same category as the Mister Rogers theme lyrics changing… it doesn’t fit this reality.

              So, I was intrigued when this thread took that turn.


              1. I don’t myself have an alt-memory of Nelson Mandela dying in jail in the 1980s, but I agree, if I did, I certainly would have considered it absolutely normal and predictable. It’s what we all were expecting.

                To me, the years from 1989-1991 were *incredibly* anomalous; and even looking back, they don’t feel quite real. That the Berlin Wall could fall without major bloodshed, that Mandela could be released, that other dictators could fall.. There was a sense that the world’s diplomats and intelligence agencies were totally blindsided, struggling to keep up. It was completely off the charts. As if ‘someone’ had interfered in our timeline to make sure we didn’t destroy ourselves – though we’d all been absolutely convinced during the 1980s that nuclear annihilation was inevitable. ‘Miraculous’ is the only way I can still describe 1989.

                It strikes me that the World Wide Web was born during those years too! Like a sudden, short period of openness.

                Though coming out the other side, into the 1990s, I was also surprised that none of my generation seemed to be excited that WW3 had been called off. The music shifted, the pop culture tone shifted to darkness and conspiracy. As if we all just decided to forget an entire decade… and not even be thankful we were still alive? It was like a collective wilful amnesia settled on us. I didn’t understand at the time, still don’t quite, though maybe a little more now.

                The Jesus Jones song ‘Right Here, Right Now’ captured my sentiment of astonishment at the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rlQqWbp7rY

                I was never a huge fan of Kobain’s music but.. in the 2000s I stumbled on Courtney Love’s ‘Celebrity Skin’ album and it felt like a very moving goodbye to him.

                I feel like 2001-2003 was another major shift point, as was 2010-2011. And possibly this year too.

                For me, the Columbia shuttle disaster will always be fixed in the early months of 2003, as I recall it happening as the Bush administration ground towards the Iraq invasion. It felt like a warning sign to me; the pride of US nationalism cast down by hubris. Still does, to be honest.


              2. Funny, about Cobain, I had an ex that had memories of a timeline where he didn’t die, in which he was a fairly successful, but by no means world shattering blues/folk musician, having retired out of Nirvana a few years after his death in this timeline. Apparently it didn’t become as much of an influence without his death.
                Also, I personally recall watching an episode of the TV show ‘Red Dwarf’ back in the late 80’s or early 90’s on late night Nebraska Public television. When the show came out years later, I was vastly surprised, since I recognized it’s off-the wall ending theme song immediately. (The episode in question, for anyone wondering, was ‘Confidence and Paranoia’, which was written in 1988, but wouldn’t be shown in the US for a number of years after)


                1. Sadly not a Mandela memory, but I have *very* fond memories of stumbling randomly into a Red Dwarf episode (“Polymorph”), yes at late night, in the early 1990s in NZ.

                  It was that wasteland time of night when everything is surreal and suddenly you just go…. wait… what did I just see… what am I watching…. what universe did I just fall into.

                  Red Dwarf is the best.


              3. There are several 90s rock musician deaths that never made sense. Same for the comedian Mitch Hedberg.
                Another celebrity I keep half expecting to see pop back up alive is 2Pac. Without getting into the conspiracy theories my question is: are there so many conspiracy theories about certain deaths because they do resonate as off kilter and wrong and are actually mandela effects?


                1. I do think that is somewhat odd as well and have also thought about TPac sprouting back on to the scenes.

                  Something that I ran into the other day though respawned by curiosity about the possibilities of certain entities/people having the capability of living within the same timestream at different points of their development. So say person “Billy” is 50 in 2015 but there is a younger and older version of him within the same timeline who is 20 or 80.

                  To put it into perspective, the most recent thing that came across my plate while trying to find out what happened in 2013 was the execution of John Errol Ferguson. I do not know how and sometimes I feel like I am being guided like a Ouija Board (never played by the way) but I was guided to link John Ferguson and Michael Brown. I had never read into what happened with Michael Brown prior to this.

                  Here is the connection:
                  Most of the photos of Michael Brown posted by media are from his *2013* facebook picture.

                  Brown has an uncanny resemblance to John; phenotype is incredible.

                  The incident occurred IN Ferguson.

                  (Not sure if anyone else has seen this)Kind of strange. If there were an entity that could disperse itself amongst multiple versions of itself within the same timeline would it be possible to change present/future events by eliminating the versions one by one? Sounds so much like a movie (The One)


          2. Nate, I agree that a lot is in flux right now. I’m not sure how much is the change of seasons and so on, but it seems like far more people are in a mode I’d describe as “Wait… what?” as they pause and reflect, and realize their memories aren’t as stable or firmly grounded as they’d believed.


            1. I think my sense of rapid change comes from a number of events that feel major to me this year:
              * The Pluto New Horizons flyby intrigued me, especially the ‘heart on Pluto’ image. Who would have imagined, in the darkest part of space, would be such an inspiring image?
              * A year of the Ferguson protests, with a new focus on police brutality that I’ve never seen reported before with such compassion
              * The Snowden revelations (though these have been building steadily for a couple of years now)
              * Increasing waves of refugee crises in Syria and the Mediterranean
              * The Greek financial crisis
              * IT people suddenly becoming strangely obsessed with ‘hostile artificial intelligence’
              * The Tianjin blast in China
              * The Ashley Madison data leak, with the potential to shake the personal lives of millions
              * and most of all the Mandela Effect giving me a weird lucid dreamlike sense of people ‘waking up inside the dream’ to the fragility of our constructs of memory and reality

              Just… a sense of shaking, deepening crisis and distrust of institutions (that weren’t trustworthy all along but have suddenly been exposed), perhaps balanced by people looking inward for new solutions.

              None of these quite point to this last couple of weeks in particular (except Tianjin) so I’m not quite sure why I was suddenly feeling it very intensely this week… but seeing the stock market crash last night made me go ‘oh, right, that’ll be it’.

              I have an annoying habit of sometimes vaguely feeling big changes in advance but _not_ being able to ever clearly understand my feelings until they happen. It’s one of the least practical psychic gifts ever.

              It’s like… well, maybe feeling a sort of accumulation of static before a big lightning storm? And having a splitting headache and being grumpy and not knowing why and then the lightning hits and suddenly your headache clears. Like that, but for big events. But I’ll never be able to point to something specific in advance and go ‘that’s going to happen’ and win the Randi Prize. Just a sense that ‘changes are afoot’.


              1. Nate,

                I absolutely understand. I’ve experienced the same kind of thing, and it’s both impractical and frustrating. However, it looks like we’re not alone. The Global Consciousness Project shows spikes in RNG activity shortly before some global events. So, something anticipates (I’m reluctant to say “predicts”) major events, and it affects our sort-of physical reality (like RNGs). I’m not sure of clear documentation regarding far-reaching RNG blips.

                (My vague premonitions — which rarely have many tangible or useful details at the time — make the most sense after the event has occurred. As if that is of any use to anyone, including me. The only helpful one in recent memory was “sensing” the 2008 economic fiasco months before it happened, so we abruptly packed and moved to a location where the economy would remain relatively stable. But, at the time, I had no idea why I thought we had to move, or why I was so specific about the logistics. I didn’t even know it was about the economy. All I could say was “something’s coming,” and where we needed to be.)

                Is any of this a deja vu kind of experience, vaguely remembering something we experienced in this same time frame but in a different reality? (Assuming some realities we visit may be days, weeks, years, or even centuries ahead of us or behind us.)

                Cool speculation. Nothing we can work with, at the moment, but I’m intrigued by the possibilities. I keep going back to the GCP studies to see if they offer anything helpful that fits with ME-type theories.



      2. ME seems to effect those who exercise more of their free will – perhaps this leads to experimentation and questioning the status quo which leads to more failure outcomes than for those who stay closer to the path that society lays before them.

        In my reality the bears have an E and I’m a loser, and damn it, I LIKE it that way.

        OT – Donna Noble is the my opinion the best companion in the new Who. Not so OT is that she is a great embodiment of a real human reacting to the ME.


    2. Hi Adam – I know we can’t delve too deeply into religion on this website since it’s controversial and can get off topic, but I just wanted to say that I think I understand where you are coming from. The possibilities of alternate realities could shake a person’s faith, but I still believe that God (who is Love) and Christ are bigger than human reality. I believe God stands outside time. My mind can’t comprehend All That Is, or the Whys, but I trust in Ultimate Goodness, if this makes sense.


      1. Julia, I definitely agree. Growing up in a strict religious family, the concept of a multiverse used to really scare me when I was a kid (what if I made the wrong decision in some timeline? What if that me never was ‘saved’? Which me is the ‘real’ one?)

        But later – in the 90s, I think – I sort of made my peace with the idea. If there are multiple me’s, and multiple timelines, how different is that really from there being multiple *people* in the world? All six billion of us?

        I had a sort of mental image back then of reality as a circle, with ‘us’ on the outside, and ‘God’ (or love, or or ‘the right timeline’ – the reality that’s at the core of the universe) as a point at the center. Perhaps we all start at different points around that circle, but it doesn’t really matter; we’re making our way to the center. The precise route we take to get there doesn’t matter. We all start from a reality that’s a bit scuffed and broken. Getting to the real reality isn’t something as obvious as just making the right life decision once; it’s every decision we make, every day, all our lives. We just need to keep moving toward what makes us feel peaceful and connected with others. And no matter what changes, we always have that option, at every point on our life. Every person matters; every version of us counts.

        At least that was the thought that brought me some comfort then, and it still does now.

        I can’t remember if it was before or after, but around that time I was pleased to find the same concept pop up in a novella by one of my favourite Star Wars writers: ‘Cascade Point’, by Timothy Zahn. A starship pilot who thinks he’s a loser has to deal with a hyperspace where you literally see alternate versions of yourself; some are better that you, some worse. But he makes his peace with who he is.

        (Zahn’s a great writer, by the way. I highly recommend him.)


        Cheers and blessings, Nate


        1. I like the way you think, Nate. It’s interesting to me that people who have NDEs often report the sensation that what they experienced was much more real than their everyday life. Rather than being dreamlike, the experience was hyper-real, but rarely uncomfortable. I really believe we are “seeing through a glass darkly” right now.

          Blessings to you too.


  37. Hi Fiona

    I had in the 90’s the faint idea that Nelson Mandela had died in prison… but now reading about the effect that bears his name, i became more vivid: I was on my testifies in the 80 and really got a feeling of weirdness when I listen he was set free from prison.

    Anyway, the alternate memory I’m sure about it is with ‘Sex IN the City’… it was always like that and not ‘Sex AND the Citty’; I clearly remember that the first time I’ve seen the late spelling with ‘and’ I wondered why had they corrected it!!! – But in this website, you actually have proof (screen capture of a Google search) that all over the world it was ‘IN’. I can’t upload pics here, so go to Jim Stone’s webpage and see the August 21 2015 report:
    NOTE: Jim’s website is under heavy censorship, so it might be possible that newcomers will be blocked from seeing it, especially in the US:
    or try this sting search using ‘verbatim’ words in Google search:


  38. I never read the Berenst_in Bear books, so I can’t comment on how their name was spelled. However I think I do remember learning to spell ‘definitely’ as ‘definately’. I remember spelling it out in my mind as def-in-ATE-ly. I have always been gifted at writing, including spelling, since a young age and was often the best in my class. It was only last year (at age 23) that I realized I had been spelling it wrong for my whole life. Can I be absolutely certain that it was not my own error and that it has always been definitely? No. Yet it’s very odd that other people have been making this mistake too. What could be the reason for this, I wonder?


  39. Sex in the City. What in the world is Sex AND the city? This was a huge show and me and the gals talked about this show a lot. We went to see the movie on opening day-bought tickets so far in advance it is embarrassing. Help! Are we going to find out there never was a financial crisi?


      1. Fiona,

        I knew someone was looking for it, but I hadn’t seen it posted yet, so I threw up the link when I literally stumbled across it while I was looking for something else. I have just recently started surfing the deep web. If I find anything that I think is pertinent, I will try to post it here.



  40. First, thanks for maintaining this site. It’s been absolutely wonderful reading. I find things of this nature quite interesting!

    I stumbled upon this site after running a Google search for the Mandela Effect, which was spurred on by the Berenstein/Berenstain weirdness pointed out in a YouTube video (which dealt with 5 Reasons Why Multiple Universes Could Be A Thing – or some similar title). Granted, I was pretty hardcore surprised to find that it wasn’t Berenstein – as I remember – but Berenstain, which just sounds utterly and completely incorrect.

    I spent much of the day going over a lot of the comments – some of which struck me as quite strange and foreign, while others rang true. Regardless, I took some notes on a few of the stand outs and my perceptions of them. (For the record, I’m presently 33 years old – born March 82)

    1.) I was fairly certain that Sally Ride was aboard Challenger, at least I recall being taught as much in Elementary school. I even remember being shown her picture. I also recall a rebroadcast of the event during my fifth grade year (so 91 or 92), which showed the shuttle ascending during the day, and then erupting – this broadcast showed the group image of the crew, specifying Sally Ride with a larger photo, because she was the first woman into space.
    2.) I recall reports of Billy Graham’s death sometime in late 2009. Maybe August. I remember being sad for his loss (having grown up Southern Baptist). I do not recall any media covering a possible Hoax or Retraction. I haven’t seen his name in the news since that time (as one would expect if he was, you know, deceased). I was pretty surprised to run a search for him and find him to still be alive and looking quite well.
    3.) The lyrics for Mr. Rogers’ song had always been “It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood….”
    4.) Speaking of Mr. Rogers, I recall seeing FaceBook posts about his death around 2010, and recall posting “RIP Mr. Rogers.” It was weird to learn that he had passed away in 2003 (and my friend seemed just as surprised when I asked him when He thought Mr. Rogers had died and told him he was about six years off the mark). While I signed on to FaceBook back in the days when it seemed a Student driven site (2004-ish), I didn’t begin actively using it until sometime after 2008.
    5.) The title of the show has always been “Sex and the City” for me. I was a teenager when it first began to run on HBO, and I recall watching the show.
    6.) Definitely, not definately.
    7.) Fruit Loops, not Froot Loops.
    8.) Mars has always had two moons to my understanding.
    9.) I’m not sure why I thought Fidel Castro was dead, but I was pretty amazed to find that he isn’t.
    10.) I had a similar reaction to learning that Jimmy Carter was not dead. My memory seems to have him passing away around 2008/2009 due to complications with cancer, and it only stood out because he’s a Georgian and I spent half my life growing up in that state.
    11.) I was taught that Eli Whitney was an African American. He was celebrated yearly during Black History Month – February – along with many other black men and women of note.
    12.) Movie Titles: ‘Interview With The Vampire’ and ‘The Candidate.’
    13.) I recall The Home Depot being named as such in earlier years, and later becoming Home Depot. I guess they liked the first one better.
    14.) I also remember JC Penny, not JC Penney. I always hated shopping.
    15.) As I child I remember reading a series of books about weird and mysterious events/things, and amongst those stories was one concerning the Lindbergh (Lindburgh looks right to me, personally) baby. It was a mystery because the baby was never found. Recently I watched a documentary that seemed to indicate a Murder Mystery – and a severely botched kidnapping – and it was putting forth theories concerning who was involved in the planning, which undoubtedly went horribly awry.
    16.) Last but not least, a Geographical Shift: As a young person learning geography, I recall the small island nation of Sri Lanka being on the western side of the Indian Peninsula rather than on the eastern side – basically the same latitude, but definitely not the same longitude.

    There were a few others, but I didn’t begin to jot the above down until much later in the evening after I had read through much of this.


    1. Okay the Sally Ride thing is starting to make me angry. There have been at least a couple of people posting about a Sally Ride having died aboard the space shuttle Challenger. There is no Sally Ride! It was Christa McAuliffe. There never was any Sally Ride and she certainly didn’t die as an astronaut aboard the Challenger.

      Don’t get me wrong I do subscribe to many of the Mandella Effect memories but not this one.

      It does remind me of a NASA conspiracy theory I’m familiar with from the internet. It has to do with Christa McAuliffe of the Challenger and Laurel Clark of the shuttle Columbia (both of whom are said to have died aboard their respective space shuttles.)

      This conspiracy theory follows a radical line of thought where people think much or all of what NASA presents to the public is absolutely fake – that there is fake footage of astronauts inside of space stations and that astronauts themselves are fake actors who are either in on the con or mind controlled to believe in the fairy tale.

      One of the claims that has come out from this conspiracy theory is that the Challenger and Columbia disasters were both somehow faked and that many of the crew aboard both doomed shuttles were actually the same actors used in both – differing by only 17 years of age. Laurel Clark and Christa McAuliffe being the same person who obviously didn’t really die in either of the apparent hoaxes. (Along with many of their fellow crew members.)


      1. xenoverse,

        I understand your frustration, because you’re using the context of the current reality. People who don’t have a specific alternate memory can feel downright annoyed when they read things that seem — to the reader — absolutely incorrect. The irritation is exacerbated if the “incorrect” information is repeated and discussed.

        While some people may have mixed up the names of the two women, I’m uncomfortable dismissing all related comments as mere confusions.

        But then you said, “There is no Sally Ride!” That’s incorrect in this reality. There is a Sally Ride: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Ride

        I’ve approved this post because it’s interesting that so many Mandela Effect topics also show up in conspiracy forums. I’m not sure if that’s how people filter alternate memories — making all related memories “false” — or what.

        However, let’s not pursue conspiracy topics here. The crossover is interesting, but that particular conspiracy theory — that all NASA flights have been faked, people have never landed on the Moon, etc. — is a fairly tired trope I’d like to avoid.

        Fiona Broome


  41. Reading some of the comments,it seems miserable quibbling hair splitters have won the earth.There’s no more black and white,everything’s just a dreary grey,people brooding over whether it’s E or A,The or A,in the city or and the city.When in fact they have never been bitten by the bug that turned Val Cade into a lush,and drove him to a suicidal end.I hope there is an alternate reality(courtesy ME) where fictional characters thrive and have different destinies,like Val Cade surviving the fatal attraction and resuming his former non chalant philandering ,to hell with Juan Roca.


  42. I remembered something on the weekend that I wanted to post, having read someone’s comment on here referring to a similar experience.
    I’ve always felt like I could sense the fringes of something outside of our reality. When I was a child I thought it was fairies. When I got older I thought it was ghosts. As an adult I thought it was my imagination. I’ve seen and heard things that couldn’t be explained my whole life.
    The most recent experience, that makes me think maybe it wasn’t just my imagination, happened over three years ago, when I was pregnant with my oldest daughter. I was lying on my bed, awake, but sort of zoned out, staring at the ceiling, too tired to get up, but not wanting to sleep. As I stared at the ceiling I saw a tunnel form, and at the end of the tunnel, a door, that opened as I watched. I don’t remember what was beyond that door, but I remember that was I was seeing wasn’t quite solid, but more the ghostly outlines that you might see after staring at a lightbulb or the sun.
    Maybe it was my imagination, or maybe I was looking into another reality. I’m really not sure which it is.


  43. Ok… I just wanted to comment on a few things… I was born in 1974 and I remember vividly coloring with the flesh crayon and buying them by the box at the factory up until I stopped coloring around 12.

    I read the bible verses listed and nothing really jumped out except the 1 Corinthians one… never seen or heard it before and I grew up hard core fundamental. I’m now agnostic and have been for 20 years… but I’ve read the bible completely through every summer when I was a kid… my brother and I had a race to win. That and I’ve seen a few other things biblically related that have made me go hmm.

    It’s always been Kirk Cameron in my timeline… I was a huge growing pains fan and ill admit to a little school girl crush at one time.

    Christa McCullough was a teacher sent up on the challenger to teach us in space for all American school children… the name now spells McAuliffe but that just might be my young faulty memory. Sally ride was the first female astronaut but didn’t die until recently. On that note, I have no memories of a Columbia disaster at all. That’s all new to me.

    I’m wondering if this is just an internet/information overload thing… like a computer we have to clean out our cache to store more info and what not… I dunno.

    I’d never heard of pb puffins until yesterday… I was watching old friends episodes for the globe… in season 2 episode 7 you can clearly see it behind phoebes head and that is where I remember Australia being… but I don’t know how to screen shot it… but it’s a very clear view of the globe. But back to the puffins… those are not sold around here and there was a box on joeys/chandlers fridge so maybe it’s suggestion… they also mentioned playing doom which I had never heard of either until today when I read the post further up.. I actually heard it on friends before I read it here.. another weird sync…..

    That’s my madhatter report for the day …


    1. Ayla: I certainly remember either a flesh-coloured crayon or a ‘pastel’ (like crayons but much softer, for proper artists) when I was a kid in the 1970s/80s. But it almost certainy wasn’t Crayola; we didn’t have many American brands in New Zealand at the time. And I only had it in that one at home; I remember being often very frustrated at school when we had to draw people and I didn’t have the ‘flesh’ colour!

      I can’t say I’m at all familiar with American crayon brands so I couldn’t say either way that fleshtone was or wasn’t in the standard crayon packs I knew. But my memory is that it existed in *some* form, but it was rare and you only got it in very large crayon packs with lots of colours. It was more of a ‘fine art’ colour than a mass-produced colour in my memory.

      Pretty sure I remember wishing at one point that I lived in Africa so that I could use the standard brown crayon for skin tones at school! Otherwise I had to go for yellow, orange, red or pink, and none of them were right.


  44. Who else remembers the famous quote from Star Wars: “Luke, *pause* I am your father” ?

    It changed to: “No, I am your father”.


    1. David: I don’t remember ‘Luke…’ as being the literal line in Empire Strikes Back, no. I do know that everyone quotes it as that because it’s easier to say.

      But the Star Wars movies are particularly problematic as they change subtly in almost every re-release. There certainly were changes made to the dialog lines for the Special Editions in 1997. I particularly remember the original line in Empire: ‘Bring my shuttle!’ as Vader stalks off being changed to the much more clunky ‘Alert my Star Destroyer to prepare for my arrival’.


    2. I’m not a Star Wars fan but even I remember Luke I am your father….Never heard that other line.


    3. In a french comedy movie there is a joke, tribute to the Star wars famous quote.
      The problem is the french version of the Empire strike back has changed to “non… je suis ton père” instead of “Luke… je suis ton père”. I have watched Ep iv, v and vi 20+ times in french, i clearly remember the quote with Luke; and i even watched the US version (same episodes) 5+ times and again i remember clearly Luke… i am your father.
      Anyway here is the link to the french comedy with the tribute famous quote:

      As a tribute it should respect the exact sentence but clearly the quote start with LUKE when the french version of star wars now is NO. So to me it’s a reference matching to my memory.


      1. Interesting, Marc. I wonder whether some alternate memories of the (English-language) movie line might be a contagion from the collective consciousness (as “out there” as that may sound) and — for some reason — the French-language version might predominate for some…? Just a wild thought, of course, but something that crossed my mind as I read this.


  45. I have one that hasn’t been brought up – or at least I haven’t seen it – “Please Mr. Postman” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=425GpjTSlS4 right – the lyrics at the 2:10 mark – don’t pass me by you see the tears in my eyes – I don’t think that lyric was in the song. I have it on my favorites – and either I never heard it but when I heard that lyric one day I was like “what”…


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