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  1. The flip side is also rather interesting…

    “Magic, mirror” in Jewish Gematria means “Holographic Mind” and “Chemical Trails.” In Hebrew Gematria it means “Deceiver of Men”. In Simple Gematria it means “The Game is Up” and “Future.”

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    1. FWIW, if you look up the “berenstein” name in English gematria, it equals 666. It equals 111 in simple gematria

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  2. I have another friend that is a empathy and she says she remembers nothing of her teen years up to her 20’s – does your wife remember the alternate realities?

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    1. My wife remembers almost none of her childhood/teens. She was remarking on it tonight. She has alternate memories that don’t line up with this timeline.

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  3. Does anybody have trouble spelling the word exercise? I’ve only had difficulty spelling it in the last few years. I always want to spell it excersize. I find a lot of web references the way I spell it- including a huffington post article and a Twitter hashtag,, but it’s apparently not correct. Is this an American vs British spelling issue?

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        1. Thanks Fiona. You are definitely not the only one who remembers it as an American/British difference. Interesting.
          The second link you posted: I see some commenters referencing an American spelling with the suffix – ize, and some Americans saying they’ve only seen it with -ise. One commenter who insists they will continue to use the spelling exersize, Steve, seems to be from my universe 🙂

          What confuses me most isn’t the suffix, but remembering one extra letter in the word (exCersize). I know it’s wrong, but my brain is screaming it’s right. I use visuals and pneumonic-like aides to remember spelling. I always have, mostly with success. Until recent years, that is. I’m in the definately and dillemna camp, and have most of the other spelling changes I’ve seen mentioned here.

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          1. How funny! Until recently — a few months ago — I had to keep checking the spelling of exercise. I was almost certain the American was excercize. With two Cs. Not certain enough to use that spelling when I knew Americans would be the predominant audience, but uncertain enough to look it up so often, I actually put that on a post-it note near my computer. (In my teens, I had the same issue with the word “awkward.” It simply looked wrong.)

            I’m so-so about definately, but until a few years ago, I was sure dilemma was really spelled dilemna. (One L and MNA at the end.) I also thought the two-L version was regional, so I always looked it up… and then, apparently, became uncertain again. I’d put that in my “dual memories” category.

            (I’ve been proofreading since my teens, when I worked at the local library and proofed their newsletters. In school I generally won — or came close to winning — spelling bees. So, being rather proud of my spelling skills, some of these issues perplex me.)

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            1. I’m perplexed also. Most of us who remember different spellings seem reasonably smart, well read, educated people. Perhaps that’s why we notice the changes. I think one L in dilemna looks right too. Sigh.

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            2. I remember it being spelt excercise. It changed for me some years ago, certainly more than 2 years.

              I’ve always been excellent at spelling. Like you, Fiona, I won spelling contests in school. Yet I discovered I was “mis-spelling” certain words around the same time that I noticed the excercise spelling issue.

              Now of course, logically, when one exercises one exerts oneself. So the spelling of exercise and exert perhaps should match and I don’t recall “excert”. That being said there are other Latin-derivative words in English with variant spellings.

              Now here’s where it gets interesting. Exert is from exsertus (exsero). So in the Latin form there is an ‘s’ (which one could imagine as changing to a soft-c). Current etymology suggests exercise is derived from exerceo but that seems wrong to me. Exerceo has meanings of enclosing, protecting, warding whereas exsero means (roughly) using. practising, striving.

              So excercise is dismissed as a mis-spelling but you could easily imagine a Victorian etymologist deciding between exerceo and exsero for the accepted derivation and the accepted English spelling forking from that decision.

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              1. Alex (in the UK), Your research makes sense- it’s totally plausible to me that the spelling could, in another reality, have been derived from exsero.

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  4. This all fascinates so much (and freaks me out a little). I don’t come to this site often, because whenever I do I end up reading for hours and hours (until I end up completely freaked out). But I popped on and some people have been mentioning a hot air balloon RIDE memory that can’t be explained. I don’t know, but perhaps that should be expanded to a hot air balloon EXPERIENCE that can’t be explained… the reason I say this is because I have a memory from my childhood where a hot air balloon landed in the apartment complex we lived in, I have mentioned this to my parents & my older sister a few years ago and they all told me I was crazy and it never happened, it was a large apartment complex but not with adequate room to land a balloon (they say) along with other reasons, so I chalked it up to wild childhood imagination, but now… (yeah maybe I’m reading too much into it, but it’s a strange coincidence). I can’t vividly remember any details (such as the time of year, color of balloon, etc) but I remember the location it landed and I remember seeing the balloon all deflated and laying on the ground around the balloon.
    Does anyone else have a hot air balloon memory not involving a ride in a balloon?

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    1. Stephanie: A very interesting question indeed, and I’m glad you asked it!

      I don’t have any strong memory of a hot air balloon RIDE. But I do have a strong early-childhood memory of a hot air balloon RACE, one day, flying over our house! I think I was maybe around six? So late 70s?

      I distinctly remember my parents calling me outside to see a whole flight of the brightly-coloured balloons as they flew low over us, so low I could actually hear the WHOOSH of the gas burners of one of them. It was kind of scary actually. A distinct sense of power that wasn’t under my control. But so beautiful and majestic. That image and sound is one of the key memories of my pre-school years!

      I’ve never had any cause to think that it didn’t happen. As far as I’ve believed all my life, that was just one of those random interesting things that happened as a kid. Like seeing the lights of the fair, or a flood that happened the year our cat found us.

      But I do know I’ve never in my adult life experienced anything remotely similar, and it’s slightly confusing how multiple balloons could actually be so low over a city you could hear the gas burners. Maybe it was just a trick of the wind carrying the sound, or these days the air traffic regulations are tighter?

      Regards, Nate

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    2. I had a similar experience when I was in elementary school. I had just left soccer practice and my mom and I drove past this house down the road from my school and there was a hot air balloon (deflated and beginning to be packed up) in the front yard of this house (it was a big front yard) so we pulled over and there were a few other people from my soccer team there and the balloon operator let us take turns standing in the basket. It’s one of those memories that’s kind of dream like but I’ve always been pretty sure it was real.

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  5. Okay I get the fact that I may have just never ever came across this fact. Perhaps it is just as simple as that but when I saw this today I felt that funny feeling like (Hmm this looks highly unfamiliar, almost unreal, like seeing anything remotely resembling a narwhal for the first time in my life last week….. it could be a ME. Since I have become aware that the ME is quite real, possibly changing things on a regular or periodic basis, and seems to have really been ramping up its overall effect recently. Some aspect(s) of the ME is currently increasing in its potency with the fact that large numbers of people are experiencing this for the first time. Anyways, here is something that I am sure I would have seen in a picture or on the news or National Geographic magazine……..or something…..It’s a 50 lane highway. Easily the most ridiculous road idea I have ever seen. Just google image 50 lane highway and you too may have never seen anything like it. Until now at least!

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    1. Wow. I thought this was a prank and then I checked Google. You’re right. I don’t think this has anything to do with ME, but it’s certainly an example of something truly strange that exists, but I’d never heard of it until now. (One would think a 50-lane highway would have been prominently in the news when it was built, at the very least… right?)

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    2. This has been recently built. It’s not a ME if I remembre that not so long ago (10 to 20 years), Atlanta was in the Guinness book of world records with a 12-lane highway.

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      1. Rainer, I agree that it’s not an ME without more information. I’d want to see how much press the highway received when it was being built or first opened, in this reality. Maybe some of us were in another reality when it was built and made the headlines.

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    3. Stephanie: I saw this image today! It boggled me too, but then I think of China as ‘the place where really big things are built’ and it didn’t particularly surprise me. But it is odd, yes.

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    4. When media blasts the public with such post there always seems to be a deeper meaning which seems to play on current or upcoming events which can be related to cosmic events, prophesy, biblical “historical” references, and financial markets.

      When a story looks a bit ridiculous or over the top, such as “scientists have come to find that many years ago due to x, y, and z animals such as snakes could have easily been the size of houses”. Because I was into trading at the time, my immediate thought was that there were going to be huge swings in the market coming up. Sure enough, within the next 24 hours currency markets displayed huge swings which went back to prior numbers before the swing resembling the ridiculous caption for that article.

      For this one, 50 lane highway traffic, the significance is on the number, the date, references to biblical occurrences, and cosmology. This same thing happens every time Golden Week comes around but the image of the highway traffic and emphasis on the number of lanes had not been presented in prior years.

      A bit much to go into the significance of this article. Some quick links I just pulled to give those interested an idea (but there is tons of stuff out there, could also be saying that this Jubilee will be 50 years not 49):
      http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/50.html
      http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu50.php
      http://www.examiner.com/article/number-50-and-its-meaning-the-bible

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  6. I just wanted to say that I’m overwhelmed by the amount of comments here, I remember when this place was fairly quiet. lol

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    1. About two months ago, I was driving from work, listening to Coast to Coast. I recall Art Bell being mentioned on the show, about a specific topic he did and then they moved on with condolences, rest in peace and such. Even before this, I always assumed George Noory took over because Bell died. The internet states Bell retired in ’03 and Bell’s wife died in ’06.

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      1. I also remember Art Bell passing, I was a huge fan back when he had The AOL page “The Grassy Knoll” so I remember being shocked and saddened. I cant place the year but I want to say 2009?

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  7. Does anybody else remember Jane Fonda passing away within the past 2-3 years? Apparently she’s still alive. I remember her death being a very big deal.

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  8. Hi, Mike H.
    I kinda find the idea that all we have are our memories kinda disturbing and interesting at the same time. If all we have are our memories, seems we have nothing. Or is that everything? I feel me getting deep, ill try to tone it down.

    We have NOTHING, because our memories don’t match our reality. They are ever changing. Or, more accurately, we shift into that objects reality, so we dont remember it that way.
    And we have EVERYTHING because we keep picking up these other frequencies and like you said, remember. Eventually, we may have three and four memories of the same event.

    I feel that presently embodiment is as important as memory.

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    1. Anthony, in a round about way , that’s what I was trying to say.
      Everything is nothing.
      Nothing is everything.

      Opposites are the same in reverse . Believe me it’s hard for me to explain it. Jason H. , Jason Thomas, Daniel, and I try to touch on this in the “September22/23 thread”. The infinity loop , figure 8 were topics that come up often. You do a much better job at communicating than I do—– not my strong point, LOL! I really like some of the ideas/theories you are bringing up. Mike H.

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      1. OH! QUOTE OF THE DAY! “Opposites are the same in reverse”….I LOVE IT!
        Another T-Shirt idea too…..

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  9. I’ve been keeping an eye on my globe (partly because I’m curious to see if it will turn into a disk) … I’ll be the first to admit I could have missed a lot. But I do not recall Alaska creeping down the west coast of Canada.

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    1. If it turns to the great a’tuin with 4 elephants on its back (nod to the disk world by pratchett).. TBH at this stage i wouldnt be too surprised, the world is wobbling so much that i am getting dizzy LOL..

      But seriously I avoid atlases, and maps because thats one of the few things that disturbs me more than anything. the fact the earth is supposed to be eternal (in our life times that is).

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      1. Around the date you posted this, I kept getting over and over, ‘It’s turtles all the way down.”

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  10. Movie Life with Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence changed. Character “Can’t get right” had a red ball not a blue ball previously. This blue color ball stands out with the blue colored car that the recruiter comes to get him in. The car was also red.

    The color, now, is much similar to that awkard dark blue-greyish color of Dr Who’s time machine. It is very strange color for the car as well, especially for that time period the movie was suppose to portray. This new blue is very unpleasing to the eye and just doesn’t feel right.

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      1. Can you do a post about the red/blue issue? I don’t remember encountering it elsewhere on the site and it sounds interesting. I do remember reading that the 2000 presidential election was the first in which the news broadcasts listed “red” states as conservative and “blue” as liberal. Previously it was the opposite. I don’t remember the reasoning given, only that it abruptly switched, and it’s been that way ever since.

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        1. Hi, Jade,

          I just now finished reading the Wikipedia [1] write-up on the red/blue state politics mapping, and although they referred to 2000 as “…the first time a standard color scheme took hold; the colors were often reversed or different colors used before the 2000 election.“, that’s close enough to your description to knit my eyebrows (at this point, I’m really becoming rather blasé toward these surprises).

          In my memory/timeline/etc., the red/blue political mapping has been stably red-conservative & blue-liberal for at least the past 40 years (before that, I wouldn’t know about, and it might be only the 36-38 years that I can really account for).

          [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

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  11. Hi, apologies in advance if this is a misplaced
    comment.. I just wanted to express my gratitude towards you, Fiona, for creating this site. Reading many of the comments have helped me in knowing I’m not alone with these strange experiences! The newer comments regarding empaths and their traits (unbeknownest to me until reading here) have inspired me to further investigate myself and I am learning that feelings/senses I’ve always felt quite awkward about having are truly valid and deserve recognition. It puts a smile on my face now knowing that great minds truly do think both alike, and for themselves! Many thanks for providing this exciting cyber space for us to share, keep up your great work!

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  12. Orion hits a cord with me too… I’ve been paying attention to it since 2004 when I lived in Alaska and Orion was no where to be seen. I figured I was too far north. Since moving back to the lower 48. Orion is predominate in the sky. I used to be able to identify lots of constellations , now I have to search for the big dipper and the pleiades because Orion seems to be hogging the sky.

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    1. English Wikipedia says that Orion constellation is visible at latitudes between +85° and −75° (and thus in Alaska you really were much closer to the edge of its visibility). In other words, it looks like you have experienced an effect of recent changes in your latitude — but not a Mandela Effect.

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      1. Thank you for that lovely insight but my latitude was 56.812 so it definitely should have been visible from that location.

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  13. I am positive berenstein bears have always been, NOT berenstain, it’s the reason I’m here and the reason I think many are here. I’m pretty sure Australia is farther west and more southern and New Zealand is to the north, but I may have confuesed papa New guinea with new Zealand. I do remember seeing old maps and seeing a blank area much more south and that’s were Australia was but then I can’t be sure that maybe it’s just conflicting info from unreliable scorces. When I heard Nelson Mandela died I Said to a friend ” I thought he died along time ago?” And I’m sure the challenger exploded in 1986 because I was in second grade watching it live from the first row and it blew up in my face.
    So that’s the time line I’m from, and I tend to believe it’s a time problem, can I be sure? Of course not, as an observer i can’t be sure that my observations haven’t been influenced by some preconceived notion or that by simply observing that the very a action didn’t change the conclusion or something like that. I’m not and do not pretend to be the smartest person in the room. The one thing I’m sure of is berenstein. And if that is the only truth than we have a really strange thing going on.
    I remember as a child my brother and sister and my father telling me that my dad owned a laser disk player, but I have no recollection of it, and I even argued that the v c r was long before that invention, aparently I was wrong, I also had an experience when I was in middle school, every day I walked the same way, one day I saw a house that I had never seen before, like it had just appeard over night and it wasn’t a house that looked the same as the others in fact it was a southwestern style painted white and back farther from the road than the rest. till this day when drive by I think to myself “that’s the house that wasn’t there”
    My theory is that we as a species from our far future are influencing us in this time line, I’m thinkin that maybe thousands or even a million years from now we have perfected time travel. Not only time travel but everything as a species and have perfected humanity and all that goes along with it. That these future people are now going back to change things that can’t be changed threw DNA or science but trying to change things that have been learned, a nature vs nurture kind of argument, they have it all figured out and humanity is almost perfected but the only way to change what we learned is to go back and change it and for whatever reason the berenstein bears changed and all of us here at this site are at the right point in history to observe the change and acknowledge it. It’s really quite beautiful, that the human race is still around that far in the future and managed not to destroy ourselves or our living space and now want to make ourselves more perfect and as they change us it’s instantaneous to them. It’s like an artist putting the last final brush strokes on a masterpiece or a conductor finding the right notes to bring the entire symphony togather. THANK YOU Fiona….I so want a hoodie with a mandella effect logo… a logo! Just thought of it, that’s what we need a symbol that conveys the idea!!

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  14. Well I think I found a new one because I started watching the movie Ghost Ship and noticed that the beginning of the move wasnt the same. When I was a kid my mom and her boyfriend would always watch horror movies on the couch and some I could watch. Well the put Ghost ship in the VCR and I know it is the beginning because all the previews, but anyways the movie was starting and I remember the ship was covered in fog and had the skill just like the cover of the movie except the skull faded into the fog as the camera panned up and over the deck of the ship and all you saw was blood running in a stream. But thats when my parents told me to leave….. But now the movie begins with a lady in a red dress singing then a bunch of people get cut in half…

    Thanks for reading and tell me if you remember that.

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  15. At first, I wrote off the “The Home Depot” vs. “Home Depot” as false memory, but then I remembered the old 90’s jingle. I remember the jingle as “When you’re with us at Home Depot, you’ll feel right at home.” This is one of those jingles that got stuck in my head for decades. I’m positive this is how it went.

    I’ve been scouring the internet all day and could not find one youtube clip of the jingle I remember. The only 90’s jingle I could find was, “Low prices are just the beginning.” The thing is, I’ve NEVER heard this one, yet it apparently played all through the nineties. When I mentioned this to my wife, I sang her the jingle I remember, “when you’re with us at Home Depot, etc.”. She had never heard it, but when I played her the “low prices are just the beginning” clip, she sang along verbatim.

    So then I went to Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia, their slogan was “When you’re at The Home Depot, you’ll feel right at home”, in the late 1990s. Of course, I remember it as, “When you’re with us at Home Depot, you’ll feel right at home”. I was able to find clips from 1996, 1998 and 1999 and none of them used either jingle. It was always, “low prices are just the beginning”. The closest I could find was a commercial from 1996, where someone named Lynette Jennings make reference to their “right at home” campaign. However, they do not sing the jingle I remember and still make reference to “low prices are just the beginning.”

    For me, this was one of those jingles that got stuck in my head, permanently. I’m sure most can relate. We’ve all been brain washed so well by clever marketing. I was an eighties kid. Others I can’t get out of my head are the Push Pop Commercial and “Jermack, bounce back, beautiful hair.” I’m so sure it was “When you’re with us at Home Depot, you’ll feel right at home”. Maybe somebody else remembers the jingle I’m referring to and can find a youtube clip.

    Lastly, there was one other clip I was able to find from 1991. It was a Home Depot commercial featuring Homer, the animated spokesperson. In this clip they play the tune I remember in the background but they still say, “low prices are just the beginning.”

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  16. Fiona

    I have sent before a comment about dubbed versions of english movies. I just remembered this because I have noticed another change in the spanish dubbed version of one of the HP movies.

    Does any of you know by any chance how this works? I mean , I’m wondering if there is more than one dubbed transcript from a movie (unlikely to me , as I explained before I have never been able to see again the “dubbed version” that I recall) or this is indeed a ME.

    I don’t want to spoil yet which Harry Potter movie has the “new” dialogue in Spanish. I know there are some people from southamerica that also reads this site and maybe there’s a chance one of them may have noticed the change.

    David.

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    1. David, as far as I know, different studios can be involved in dubbing for different target audiences. (For example, dubbing for American audiences isn’t always the same as dubbing for English audiences.) So, there may be more than one version of a Spanish-language Harry Potter film.

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      1. Fiona:

        That is a relieve ! So maybe there are more than one studio involved in this, right? I have to check if I catch again the version with the script that I recall.

        There’s only one more thing. I have yet to catch again the Independece Day with the dubbed script I recall (as I said before I have never been able to catch again the dubbed version that I watched at the cinema. This have been bugging me for 10 years).

        On another topic, I read a comment about searching if the ME is just USA related or no. I believe that is a global thing, but anyway I think it would be interesting to check things like local celebrities who were dead and now they’re alive again or maybe any other event that is ME related.

        Ps: I read that another David wrote a comment below. just to be sure, it wasn’t me, right? Haha.

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  17. Fiona,
    Keep up the good work,
    Here are some suggestions for further areas to examine (to see if there is any correlation to ME) are:
    1) SLIders – as in “Street Light Interference” or people who can make street lights go out (or turn on) as they pass under them. As a SLIder myself, I have experienced a great deal of ME in my life.
    2) Any severe accident/medical procedure (or NDE) that they should not have lived through but yet somehow did?
    3) Continued appearances of repeating numbers (i.e. 11:11, 444, etc..) in their lives on frequent and unprovoked basis.
    4) Spirituality . A poll to rate a person’s level of belief in God etc,,, from 1-10 etc… to determine any connection to prayer life or spiritual beliefs. Possibly further segregate by various religious groups (i.e. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Agnostic etc…)
    5) Astrological sign. Break out/graph manifestations by sign. Similar to what you have already deduced with empaths (I am one BTW). Some signs tend to exhibit more empathy tendencies than others (i.e. Pisces)
    6) Occurrence of other phenomena such as Deja Vu or Synchronicity on a regular basis by people with ME.
    7) Conduct outreach to other nationalities to see if famous people in other countries have died and now are alive or other examples of ME on a global scale etc… See if it is global phenomena or confined to USA etc…
    Hope this helps .
    David

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    1. David, I really appreciate you sorting these issues and listing them. (I’m very Virgo, btw. I love lists like this. LOL)

      I’d love to create polls/studies for all of these points. Part of that will depend on resolving the software issues — on-site or with external polls — and if the tee shirts do well enough for me to hire an assistant to help with some of the moderation, etc. (Fingers crossed, that will resolve a lot.)

      Thanks again, and I hope to put this list to use, soon.

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    2. I have odd effects on radios, i cannot tune them, i get the sound perfect then as soon as i move away its detuned lots of static, so i have to tune it wrong to get it right for when i am not there.. and for the last week whenever i open the back door the street light goes out.. . and its a good 30 feet away from my house. Even had machines/radios detune as i get near and people know its me, because only i make their radios act weird..

      I have had several “fits” complete no but was concious and even asked and answered questions. whether they are NDE’s i dont know..3 of them to my direct recognition.

      Numbers not really, I am a Slider between atheist and agnostic, i am a sceptic in everything i try to find a explanation for everything, but I know there are more things in heaven and earth than is ever dreamed of.. I question even the standard “answers”, I want to learn the WHY? the why anything is/was/will be

      I am a taurus 5th of may, born in 1973 the year of the ox.. i am doubly stubborn LOL..

      I suffer from deja vu.. at least two or 3 times a week, but i always “Break” them by doing something totally out of character, I used to be an empath, but i would feel too much what other people felt.. so i shut down that part of me, still can sense stuff but i dont like using that part.

      I live in the UK near manchester my family has been here in the surrounding area (60 miles away) since records began in the churches 1232, so thats me.

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      1. Funny you should mention the radio tuning and street lamps Martin. I have those same issues, and problems with electronics in general. I hear high pitch noises from lights and electronics that others around me can’t hear. If the DVD player in my living room is on (just the power on, not actually playing a movie) I can hear it from anywhere in the house. Drives me nuts. Also I ‘break’ credit card machines and ATMs when I use them. I had finger prints taken on a digital machine yesterday (for a job), and the lady had a hell of a time getting my prints. They kept getting rejected by the computer. The whole line of people in front of me, no problems, each one took about two minutes. It took 20 minutes to get my prints.
        LED lights that are supposed to last for years burn out after a few months in my house. The house is less than 10 years old so I know it’s not old wiring. It’s always me that theh go out on- I flip the light switch, there’s a flash and audible pop, and the light is dead.

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        1. At one point, i would “throw” lightning through paper, i would run my hands on the old computer monitors, then hold a piece of paper to the metal desk and my my hand closer and zap i would burn a hole into the paper.. i sort of build up a charge as well.. if thats a side effect or a cause i dont know.. but i have even set off a metal detector in an airport going to america, i set it off and they pulled me to one side and used a hand held scanner on me twice once it said i had metal in my groin, then they did it again and no metal.. and this was airport metal detectors.. talk about scary and embarrassing

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  18. Here are my own in-congruent memories (prior to discovering more, thanks to this site):

    Jack Palance: Originally: Died shortly after the filming of City Slickers 2 (1994). I remember the dedication at the beginning of the movie.
    Now: Died in 2006, 12 full movies later.

    Jane Goodall: Originally: Died in the late 80s, while living with monkeys. She was brutally murdered by poachers, and had her hands and feet cut off as if she were actually poached.
    Now: Alive, and has written numerous books, several movies, and continues to be a renown activist.
    Note: I vividly remember the TV news of the event as well as later reading the National Geographic feature. I remember the photographs of Jane’s body being carried out of the jungle on a stretcher. Nothing ever seemed odd to me until I began to see Jane alive and well on billboards and television sometime around 2007/8. Prior to researching the in-congruity I had never heard of Dian Fossey. Additionally, I asked my wife what she remembered about Jane, as she had been a huge childhood fan. Her memories matched mine. I then asked my parents, whom I was living with when Jane died, but they remember Fossey.

    Walter Cronkite: Originally: Died in mid-2008. I actually had a long discussion via email with another person on whether Walter had already died once before. I clearly remember watching a special on his life that included several memorable reports that he produced. All of this happened during a defined period in my life when I was away from home in 2008.
    Now: Died in July 2009.

    Australia: Originally: Was completely surrounded by a great deal of water on all sides. Quite a bit South of Asia.
    Now: Directly below Papua New Guinea. Far too close to Asia, and the Southern island chain.

    New Zealand: Originally: North-West of Australia. I remember specifically looking for it on a map just after the release of one of the LoTR movies.
    Now: South-East of Australia.

    WWII: Originally: Only one atomic bomb was dropped to end the war. It was dropped on Hiroshima.
    Now: A second a-bomb was dropped on Nagasaki as well.
    Note: I have watched several programs recently which have reinforced the fact that two cities were destroyed. This has clouded my memory to the point that I cannot rely on this in-congruence any longer.

    Falkland Islands: Originally: A single large island with many small islands around the coast.
    Now: Two (nearly three) large land masses.
    Note: This ME is unique to me, as it was shared by two friends at the same moment. Sometime in 2007/8 three of us were researching places to bug out to during emergencies. The Falkland Islands seemed an ideal place and we spend the large part of one day viewing satellite maps of the islands, looking for the best landing spots, places to approach unseen, etc. The following day, one of my friends approached me and the other in shock and asked us to look at the satellite image again. All three of us could confirm that it was not the same islands we spend hours viewing the day prior.

    Here are some of my theories. Of these, I personally lean toward the death, intention manifestation or reentry theories, due to personal experiences.

    Prime Consciousness
    Assumptions: The multiverse consists of near infinite timelines. Each additional timeline splits off of timeline 1 (the timeline shooting straight out of the first moment in time) every time there is more than a single possible choice or outcome. You can imagine how massive this mess of timelines would be after just a single moment. Each individual exists in as many timelines as their existence is possible at once. While all iterations of an individual appear to be conscious, only one is inhabited by his/her “prime” consciousness.
    -Death
    If upon death the body in question houses the “prime” consciousness, this consciousness will slip into the nearest timeline in which the individual is still living. The individual will likely be unaware of the move, as it will be instantaneous, and will go about their life unaware that in a few possible realities away he/she was just killed by, say, that red car that nearly blew through a stop light, but managed to notice and break just in time. Anything else that was different in the losing timeline will quickly be blurred in memory as new history and information presses in. The entire shift is likely to go unnoticed, unless there is a very large, or marked difference in the new reality.
    -Intention Manifestation
    Assume that intention manifestation does indeed work, but not in the way we think. We do not in fact bend reality to our will in any fashion, but instead shift timelines at will until our “prime” consciousness resides in a timeline similar to our desired outcome. We must assume that similar timelines are grouped closer to each other, as they branched from a common thread. This would explain why it is difficult to affect any huge change through intention manifestation, such as regrowing a limb, as both a reality in which technology is advanced to this point and a reality in which a limb was never lost are much further from the current timeline.
    -Accidental
    Perhaps consciousness shifts are completely natural, or completely random, but go largely unnoticed. On that note, any theory like this would really not be necessary until now, as not too long ago humans did not possess such elaborate social networks, and could not exchange information so quickly and with such a large audience. The likelihood of stumbling upon someone with similar experiences without the help of a search tool or a forum would be very small. Even should it have happened, it would likely be brushed aside as coincidence and false memory. Without the flow of information that we have from radio, television and the internet, people would also have a much smaller world-view, and world-changing events would not be as visible to everyone at once, leading to significantly fewer conflicts of memory.

    Collective Consciousness
    Assumptions: Reality is the same as in Prime Consciousness, but no single consciousness is any different from the next.
    -Theory
    As each individual dies, his/her consciousness is assimilated into the consciousness of the same individual on the nearest timeline in which he/she is still alive. Memories would likely match to a large degree, but there would be minute differences that could go unnoticed.

    Timeline Collapse
    -Natural
    Timelines naturally or randomly collapse back into the nearest timeline, taking on the characteristics of the remaining reality. Some individuals do not assimilate properly, and have remnants of the collapsed reality appear in memory.
    -Apocalyptic
    The end of a timeline is caused by some catastrophe of universal proportions. The timeline ends abruptly and melds back into the nearest surviving reality. The unnatural conditions of this theory leave some people confused with mixed memories.

    Butterfly Effect
    -Time Travel
    Multiple timelines are irrelevant to this theory. Assume that time travel has recently been realized (known to the public or not), and through irresponsible travel someone has managed to change the course of history. The change would be instantaneous in the present, and would seem as though it were always that way to most. We must also assume that human memory is not completely stored in the body. Some may retain the memory of how it once was until it fades. There would of course be no physical evidence that anything was ever different. How one would go about changing something as fundamental as plate tectonics, however, is beyond me…

    Pushing Thoughts
    -Thought Control
    It has been theorized lately that some agencies have developed technology that is able to push thoughts into people’s minds without them knowing. If this technology is able to engrain false memories, as well as influence present thought, those of us with false memories may just be the unwilling victims of thought control experiments.

    Reentry
    -Theory
    Those of us who have left our bodies at any point, be it OBE, Astral Projection, or maybe even Lucid Dreaming, unknowingly reenter through a slightly different timeline or reality. Perhaps each and every time. Who are we to know for certain, when we don’t fully understand the mechanics leaving the body, and all we have to go on is our memories of the previous timeline.

    Shared Mind Slip
    -Theory
    Imagine again that we exist on many, many timelines all at once. Imagine that our mind is actually external from our bodies, not wholly located or depending upon our brain. Imagine that there is a veil in place, as some would surmise, that keeps us from knowing many things while we are alive on Earth. Imagine that were this veil to be lifted, we would find that all versions of ourself actually share a common mind. What if information from one of our incarnations slipped through this veil to another, and this is the out of place memories that we have.

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    1. I only got as far as the Jack Palance one, when my brain did a somersault. I actually went to his IMDb page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001588/) to see if I was mixing up two of his movies, or if you got the City Slickers 2 year wrong.

      I loved City Slickers, and I was so glad he’d at least finished City Slickers 2. Though the opening dedication was a sad reminder, I was glad they’d put it at that point in the film, so viewers could acknowledge his passing and go on to enjoy the film and celebrate one of Palance’s final projects.

      (I’m never pleased when a similar dedication is at the end of a film or TV episode. I mean, it’s a nice gesture, but I’d rather conclude with a happier frame of mind related to the person’s life.)

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    2. Thanks for this great post, Zach!
      I think your comments acknowledging the ill-fitting ME’s related to geographical changes in most proposed explanations might be a strong clue for how to winnow down to the best explanations for this phenomenon.
      Also, I wonder, when you suggest those of us with these “false” memories might be subjects of an experiment, if it’s not the opposite; if it might not be that those without “false” memories are accepting the program, experiencing the test, while those of us here are noticing the discrepancies are the control-group.

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    3. As far as countries and continents go it has to be taken into account that different maps do exist. The map that most people grew up with in school is just one version. The earth is round and maps are flat. It is impossible to give a correct rendition of the earth on a flat surface. For this reason several maps using different ways to represent the earth are published. Depending on the map, countries can vastly differ in size and position.

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      1. Christo, your point was already made in my article, Does History Explain Alternate Geography?

        It’s more helpful if these kinds of comments are at related articles, so we reduce repetition (and excessively long threads) at this site. If you’re interested in this kind of conversation — not just here to explain how and why we’re wrong — please continue it at the related article.

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  19. I didn’t see this one listed, but people are talking about it:

    Field of Dreams, “If you build it, they will come” has changed to “If you build it, HE will come”.

    The clip of the movie says “HE”, yet everyone I ask remember it as I do as…”they”.

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    1. It has been discussed, probably a page or two earlier in the comments. You’ll see plenty of people remembering it as “they,” with supporting secondary evidence.

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  20. Ok I am a big blues brothers fan, love it, however the sequel should be consigned to the lowest level of hell IMO.. i am watching a criticism about it, and It sort of stunned me a little. I was 100% sure because it was so bad that Macauley Culkin was in it as the kid(buster)… because the film is SO bad IMO i remember it so well.. and apparently it was planned for Culkin but he outgrew it.. but i am still 100% convinced i saw him in that film.. (but it couldnt have been as the dates meant he was 18-20)

    the only thing i can think is if it was made a few years earlier in my timeline, so it would have fitted.. but i dont know.. As always it could have been me misremembering. Every so often something comes along and throws me even though i KNOW about the Mandela Effect. it blows my mind..

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  21. Does anyone else remember Jan-Michael Vincent passing away in the late 70’s or early 80’s? I would have sworn that he had, but no, he is alive as of 10/12/2015.

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    1. purplepoints,

      I had to look that up, to be sure you were right. I was certain he’d died in the 80s. As I recall, it was some sort of accident, and tragic, of course, but not extraordinary for that era.

      Then, I thought I must have mixed up the names. I knew that the young man was blond-ish and handsome and was a co-star on a helicopter show co-starring Ernest Borgnine.

      No, I wasn’t mistaken. The star was Jan-Michael Vincent, but he’s still alive now.

      I’m utterly amazed.

      Sincerely, Fiona

      I’m absolutely baffled by this one.

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      1. Fiona,
        Jan Michael -Vincent , was one of the first actors I noticed alive again ( not sure what we call it). This was well before the Internet was mainstream. He was in one of my favorite movies as a kid. “Damnation Alley”. I was devasted , I would have sworn he died of a drug overdose in 1985. I remember seeing it on ET. Fast forward to 1993 , and their he was on TV doing an interview. It was one of the strangest feelings, which I would have many more times. It was hard to forget that rough actor with rock star looks. Both those years are on my “list”. Mike H.

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        1. Mike H., thank you! I had no idea he was still alive until I checked online after reading purplepoints’ comment. The weird thing is, I recognized Vincent’s current pictures (for all I know, I saw him IRL at Dragon Con or something), but I didn’t realize it was Jan-Michael Vincent. I was that certain he’d died years ago, and yes, I didn’t want to mention that the “accident” involved drugs, since he’s still alive. (But, I also wanted to see if anyone else mentioned that in a similar memory about his death.) It’s why I said “not extraordinary for that era.”

          And, like you, I saw mention of his death on some TV show like ET. I was absolutely stunned when the news broke. I was so certain he’d died, that when I was moderating purplepoints’ comment, I paused to check the facts of this reality.

          On my personal scale of “makes sense” to “not a chance in Hades,” the idea of Jan-Michael Vincent not dying long ago seemed completely impossible.

          Very odd.

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          1. Fiona,
            Jan-Michael Vincent was one of those like my Ringo memories. I’ve got several I never mention to see if they come up. Like Martin and yourself , I have always wondered if there was some connection, since Ernest Borgnine is an often mentioned ME ( he is one of mine also). This might sound a bit silly, but I wonder if for example we checked Air Wolf episodes for guest stars , if any are on our lists.

            I have mentioned before that I seem to notice patterns. And for whatever reason a lot of these celebrities seem to cluster around certain years , for me anyway. They pretty much line up with my year list. 85-86, 89, 93,98,99,01 and 05 to the present. With 09,11,12 being especially busy for celebrities. Mike H.

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          2. First of all, let me say I am glad Jan-Michael Vincent did not pass away as I remember and is still alive.

            I also did not mention in my original post how I remember Jan-Michael Vincent passing in order to see if anyone else shared the same memory about his death.

            I remember clearly when I was around 12 or so, hearing he had passed on TV and asking my Mom what had happened to him. She did not want to get into the details because it was drug or alcohol related. Could have been an overdose or a car accident, I can’t recall exactly. I do remember where I was at, and we moved from that house in 1982, so it had to have been some time before that.

            I was astonished when I saw an article about him having his leg amputated recently. I thought, “how can he have his leg amputated when he has been dead for over 30 years?”

            Went and looked it up and he is still alive. It is unbelievable, but I am happy for him!

            (My daughter said she sure hopes Heath Ledger miraculously comes back in a few years.)

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            1. purplepoints, I have the vaguest memory of an accident being part of his death. I was thinking it was a car accident, but the headlines were about the massive amount of drugs in his system, and — as I recall — they were what actually killed him. I’m not sure it was technically an overdose, but it was more than his body could handle. I don’t recall any other fatalities or significant injuries, just him. (I want to say that he accidentally drove off a cliff near Malibu, but that’s too blurry to be reliable.)

              The verdict I recall: he died from the drugs. It was a stupid way to go, but not unusual back then. (And not entirely unheard of, now.)

              I’m hoping Heath Ledger returns, as well. And a few other talented people who left us too soon.

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              1. I was trying to recall a similar death, to explain the way the headlines were selectively written when Jan-Michael Vincent died in the other reality.

                I found it. It was musician Harry Chapin (“Cat’s in the Cradle”) who had a heart attack and died when his VW Rabbit was hit from the back by a truck.

                Well, that’s what the news stories said on the radio. (There’s nothing Mandela-ish about this, as far as I know.) First, Chapin had a heart attack, then — aware that he was in trouble — he signaled with the flashing hazard lights on his car, and headed to the shoulder of the highway. Then, as he was crossing lanes, his car was hit by an oncoming truck that couldn’t slow down to avoid him.

                Weirdly, since the accident was in NY and the press had plenty of access to the facts, the NY Times obit only mentioned the car crash. (Ref. http://www.nytimes.com/1981/07/17/obituaries/harry-chapin-singer-killed-in-crash.html ) Fans tell a slightly different story. (Ref. http://harrychapin.com/misc/howdied.shtml )

                Either way, a heart issue caused Chapin’s death, but the headlines were about the car accident.

                Similarly, I recall Vincent’s obituary leading with the more sensational aspects: In his case, the headlines were about the drugs — the main cause of his alternate death — but if anyone read all the way to the end of the obit, the article mentioned the car accident.

                I’m pretty sure fans would prefer to remember Vincent’s alternate death as a tragic car accident, rather than anything drug related.

                I prefer not to think about either of them, and celebrate the fact that — in this reality — he’s still with us.

                As I was looking for similar obituary editing in this reality, I realized this is a good example of why it’s important to conduct research before deciding one’s memories don’t match this timestream. Media bias can result in a story being told in very different ways.

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                1. Fiona when you referenced Harry Chapin singing Cat’s in the cradle, I immediately had to look it up. I have always known that song to be by Cat Stevens. I love cat Stevens and own several albums on vinyl, including a greatest hits album, which used to have Cat’s in the cradle on it. Of course I just checked it, and it’s not there.

                  Apparently I’m not the only one with this memory; a quick google search will show you that many people swear Cat Stevens wrote that song. Here’s a link where people were CERTAIN it was Cat Stevens, until they were corrected. The language people use smacks of a ME to me. People swear by it.

                  https://liontamar.wordpress.com/2013/06/21/cat-stevens-did-not-sing-cats-in-the-cradle/

                  Skeptics may say that people with this memory are relating the song to Cat Stevens just because of Cat in the song title. But that was the whole point! To me, the song is so poignant BECAUSE it was autobiographical, about Cat Stevens and his father.
                  I’m freaking out right now.
                  Complete shock on this one.

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                  1. PS- I’ve never in my life heard of Harry Chapin, until just now reading your comment.
                    I went to YouTube and watched some videos of him. Nothing. I know NONE of his songs (except for cats in the cradle which I will always think was Cat Stevens).

                    I’m a huge fan of music from the 60s and 70s. I have a large album collection and I’ve listened to the radio, a lot, my whole life. How have I never heard these songs???

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                  2. FJ, that’s fascinating. As I was researching Chapin’s death, I was wondering why I thought that was so important to post at this site… and now it looks like it leads to another Mandela Effect event. (What’s especially odd is that I can “hear” Cat Stevens singing it. I’ll have to see if he did a cover of the song, because his voice is so clear in my memory… but I’m pretty certain I’ve never heard him sing it, only Chapin.)

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                    1. I’ve been reading more about this issue, and it’s even weirder the more I delve into it. I’ve seen comments from people claiming, like me, that they remember the song being on Cat Steven’s greatest hits album. Many people also remember the original album with the song being titled Cat’s Cradle, but it never existed in this reality.
                      I have searched to see if Cat Stevens did a remake of this song but I can’t find ANY evidence of that happening. When I listen to the song now, I can tell the difference in the voice too. Harry Chapin’s voice is deeper, it just sounds different to me.

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                    2. I also thought it was Cat Stevens, and I don’t think I’ve never heard of any of Harry Chapin’s other songs. But just take a look at the lyrics to some of the top songs in his discography, I’d say they are pretty meaningful. It’s pretty easy to tell which ones by the titles.

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                    3. AH! This is one is VERY interesting for me because, if an example of ME, it would be the earliest example yet! I too, once upon a time, believed Cat Stevens had sung that tune…but my discovery that it was NOT was made around 15-20 years ago! I was as dumfounded then as you al are now! Just chalked it up to a mistake on my part and moved on.

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                    4. Hey FJ, Anne, Fiona,
                      So, just for clarification sake, are you three saying Cat Stevens NEVER recorded “Cats in the Cradle”? If so, that has now changed!
                      I had NO PROBLEM finding Cat Stevens version on YouTube.

                      Fiona,
                      (PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EDIT THIS OUT. I don’t want to start any speculation or fear.) Ever since Ben mentioned “feeling a change” on Nov. 13th, I’ve run across a few situations where evidence has either appeared or disappeared. It startled me when it first occurred, but one instance isn’t evidence. So, I’ve decided to go back and check MY OWN posts first. Seems like a logical place to start. I’m still searching for a couple “rogue” posts, and if I can’t track them down, I may request your help. For now, I want to do the “legwork” myself for documentation sake.
                      Thanks again, Fiona, for all your dedication and support! The situation seems crazy! So, I don’t want to overreact and get everybody’s hopes up. If anything solid (besides this and the Sinbad/genie thing!) comes from it, I will DEFINATELY (pun intended!) share it with everyone however you see fit!

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                    5. DbD, please share the link at YouTube. I’ve found one that has a photo of Cat Stevens (and plenty of angry comments at the video, asking why his photo is on it) but the voice is Harry Chapin. I’ve found a couple of others that list Cat Stevens in the name of the video, but in the (fine print) music credits for the video, they list Harry Chapin as the singer/songwriter. (Actually, I think his wife wrote the song or was co-writer, but I’d have to look that up to be certain.)

                      In addition, I found a few erroneous sites crediting Cat Stevens with the recording, but — so far — all of them seem to feature Harry Chapin’s recordings.

                      Cat Stevens recorded “Cat’s Cradle,” but — unless I’m overlooking something — not “…in the Cradle.”

                      So, a link with the Cat Stevens version of Chapin’s song would help. Thanks!

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                    6. Hey Fiona,
                      Unfortunately, I can no longer find the video. All I can say is When I found it, I looked up Harry Chapin’s version as well, in order to compare the two. This one may be “lost”! I guess I’m going to need to start saving links. Sorry for the confusion!

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                    7. No problem, DbD. I’ve felt the same frustration, myself. Also, it wouldn’t surprise me if the recording labels associated with Harry Chapin and Cat Stevens — seeing increased activity at related YouTube videos — are having those videos removed for copyright violations. Or something.

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                  3. I recall Cat Stevens always to be the once who recorded Cats in the Cradle. Never heard Harry Chapin. I tripped when I looked it up.

                    Another one is Peter Frampton. ( Do you..you…feel like ( I ) do…

                    Is now: Do you…you…Feel like ( WE ) do…

                    Without a doubt we are not where we once were.

                    The real question is, where are we really at?

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                    1. Slider, can you share a reliable link where you found the alternate Peter Frampton lyrics? (See Terms: Comments, as the comment policy changed here, in the past couple of weeks. Except that you’ve commented here regularly in the past, I wouldn’t ordinarily approve this without a good link.)

                      In my own hasty search (since I recall the chorus as first-person singular), it looks like the chorus is what we recall, but the song lyrics change (to “… like we do”) after the first keyboard solo. (Ref. http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/peterframpton/doyoufeellikewedo.html )

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                    2. This is the part I am talking about.

                      I was a total Frampton Comes Alive Album Fanatic as a kid. What I find interesting is the -we- to me was never there so I am seeing probably my first -partial- change and seems that is all that happened here.

                      https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Do+you+feel+like+we+do

                      There is also no reference to who ( we ) is/are. Just weird.

                      Do you feel like we do?
                      Do you feel like we do?
                      Oh, that’s true.
                      Do you feel like we do?
                      Get back.
                      Do you feel..do you feel like we do?

                      [2nd guitar solo]

                      Oh baby do you feel?
                      Oh baby do you feel, feel like we do?
                      Do you feel…do you feel…like we do?
                      I want to thank you.
                      Do you feel like we do?
                      That’s alright, that’s alright to feel you’d like,
                      Feel you’d like, a good time.
                      We’ll goto bed and good night.
                      Good night, good night, good night, good night, good night

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      2. I find it curious that Jan-Michael Vincent and Ernest Borgnine are linked to two mandela effects.. could this just be a coincidence. or Something odd about that show.. would be interesting to search out if there was anything else connected

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        1. Thanks, Martin! I had the exact same thought when I went looking for that TV show, and found myself typing in Ernest Borgnine’s name (since I was certain he was in the show). I’ll be looking for Airwolf on Netflix or some other streaming service, to see if anything else catches my attention. It might be pure coincidence, but it certainly is an odd one. It’s not as if either actor had been in a massive number of TV series. (I’m also thinking about tapping into one of those “six degrees of…” sites to see the names each of them connect to.)

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          1. Hey everyone,
            I know I’m a little late to this one, but I think the Jan Michael Vincent ME may yeild some interesting results. Or, at the very least, solid history of his existence in this reality.
            I have clear memories of pictures of him showing up every time a story came out regarding celebrities and drugs or alcohol use in the 80’s and 90’s. It was almost like he was the involuntary Posterboy for overindulgence in Hollywood. I know, in my reality, Jan Michael Vincent had an EXTREMELY hard life (self inflicted, or otherwise), and was even homeless at one point.
            As for Ernest Borgnine, I was sure he had passed away until I heard his voice in “Spongebob”. At that time I assumed I was just mistaken. I just went to check his filmography and I am AMAZED by the amount of work he had done up to his death and I’m not sure how I could’ve missed it for SO LONG.

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    2. I am a fan of both surfing and hot men. I am stunned to discover Jan Michael Vincent is alive (although thrilled for him!).

      Are Heath Ledger and Michael Hutchence coming back? Pretty please universe.

      That was a joke – until spell check questioned “Hutchence” – thought I would check google – still correct spelling BUT top story for Michael Hutchence on “google news” from the Sydney Morning Herald calls him Hutchen’s in the headline – interesting that a prominent Sydney newspaper would get this incorrect – he is an idol in Australia.

      http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/inxs-singer-michael-hutchens-life-revealed-in-new-pictures-taken-by-teen-photographer-richard-simpkin/story-fnn7ma1h-1227564780675

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    3. This completely blew my mind. Until 5 minutes ago I thought he died in the 1980s while making some movie or TV show. Wow. Like Fiona, I’m a truly baffled. This one is very, very strong for me.

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  22. I am hoping that the person that wanted to share flickr accounts of photos – primarily of snow white sees this – i’ve scrolled through the website but can’t find you so far – I finally got there – [email address deleted] – if that is how you add people. 🙂

    [Fiona’s note: Stephanie, I’m not sure it’s a great idea to put your email where every spammer (and we have many of them) and troll (we have a few of those) can access it. So, I deleted it. You can re-post if you want to, but please think carefully before doing so. It’s not something you can reverse, once your email address is in the wild.]

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  23. I want to put some things out there but not sure if I have enough time right now to put it all in words. Nonetheless, here are some thoughts and perhaps others can identify with the brief description and expound with insight:

    1.Back to the Future date of 10/21/2015 coming up. What is scheduled for this date? Significance
    2. Pepsi was a major advertiser in Back to the Future. Pepsinogen in the body breaks down protein. It is a a proteolytic, and is derived from the chief cells in the stomach. It splits peptides and the amino acids in proteins. Amino acids are said to be the building blocks of DNA. So if Pepsi contains its own pepsinogen like enzyme could it possibly be breaking down the DNA strands of the body? pepsin is a member of the aspartate protease family.

    As we look at the new list of ingredients on a lot of our foods now we see “asparatame” listed for which I have an adverse reaction to. The taste is nothing like sugar to me, is descernable even in gum, and can create sores in the mouth and cause the gums to become raw-like.

    Is it possible that a disconnect, from a matrix like environment, could occur due to a break in the genetic sequence where the proper codes do not update accordingly because the link is missing? ( may sound absurd. Matrix could be a community entangled in a web of codependence)

    3. Could people who experience unceasing tinnitus be a part of an experiment or “foreign” nation? Take the “Cherokee ” Nation for instance who have stated they are from the Pleiades star system.

    4. If water, (body is 75% H2O) responds to frequencies, could the tinnitus be a phone call of sorts to reach a higher level of consciousness or being?

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      1. Orion I think will play a role in the end of everything – that was the constellation that was prominent during Jesus’s birth -they built the pyramids based on Orion. We haven’t seen the last of it.

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    1. Yesterday, one of my open minded friends raised some points about the hidden agenda of Back to the Future. I mentioned that hoverboards have been in in the news recently and his brain just about exploded.

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      1. I’ve never actually watched Back to the Future. I’m going to watch it now.

        I knew hoverboards were in the film and that it was set in 2015. I also noticed the fact that there are things coming out that could be described as hoverboards, Swegways and more interesting still the Lexus Slide (http://www.lexus-int.com/amazinginmotion/slide/).

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    2. Daniel, in my opposite-twin( mirror) system of calenders-time that I have in my mind. 10-21 opposite is 3-10, it’s mirror/twin is 3-21. Don’t know if those numbers help or not. 2015 is super-dark blue to me ( midnight blue?). Orion’s Belt is a focal point I believe. Don’t if this helps you or not. Mike H.

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  24. Has anyone recently seen on T.V. a movie trailer that was scheduled to released very soon (this year 2015) titled The Candidate starring James Franco (Harry Osborn in the Spider Man trilogy) ?

    My wife and I clearly remember seeing the ad on TV multiple times and when you search for it online, nothing appears.

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  25. Now this one may just be me but…who knows. Back in the 70s, I remember thinking it was Haight Ashbury but then found out it was actually Haight Asbury. I even remember seeing a picture of the street sign on the corner in the newspaper, so I knew that I had made a mistake. But now, everything shows it to be Haight Ashbury. Does anyone else remember it the other way?

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    1. Oh my gosh! It was most definitely Haight Asbury!! I was always confused about how to pronounce it, but there is no ambiguity about it now, is there? I can’t even believe this one.

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    2. I also remember Haight-Asbury. Specifically, I remember it being pronounced Ashbury but spelled without the H, which I found odd but I assumed it was similar to things like Gloucester being pronounced Glosster. But then again, Asbury Park NJ is not pronounced Ashbury, so that really doesn’t make sense. I’m flummoxed.

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    3. I remember it as Haight Ashbury as well. I was there in fact for the gay riots way back when. I was not part of it but I was there. So yes. I remember it well.

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  26. All right, I never thought I’d be sending in one of these, but then I came across one of my own. (FTR, I always thought it was E as well, if that matters to anyone.) Anyways, today someone posted on Facebook that it was the anniversary of John Denver’s death on October 12, 1997. I could’ve sworn he died on August 30, 1997 (or around that date, but it would’ve been late that week). I remember this clearly because the next night was my first overnight shift at my job and that day/night was the same date Princess Diana died. I was hanging out with some friends before I went to work, and remember distinctly making a joke about Denver’s death not long before seeing something about Diana’s death. That night at work, I remember the coverage on CNN going all night, with Denver’s death (which had been a top story up until then) getting forgotten completely. Needless to say, I was very confused when I saw someone post it today, so I went to Wikipedia and sure enough, it said October 12th.

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    1. I remember Princess Diana’s death pretty well because of a flippant comment I made. It was something along the lines of people getting in accidents all the time. This wasn’t “news”. Only I learned later that she DID die and I felt like a complete jerk. I had such guilt for weeks.

      Denver though, we had moved to another town by then, had our place set up, and were established with our well. We moved to that town in 1999. In August of 1999, we didn’t have running water and our electric wasn’t hooked up yet. But October, we had water, electric and water. I remember standing outside thinking about John Denver’s crash while staring at the leaves changing.

      After his death, I went through a phase where I HAD to play Annie’s Song for both my children. My youngest was born in 1998. So it couldn’t have been 1997 for my timestream. Annie’s Song was the song my Grandpa played to me when I was little, so it was very sentimental for me. But October 12, 1999 would match my memories because on my son’s birthday (Oct 31) I sang that song to him. The year before we didn’t live there and the next year we had a different party.

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  27. Pink Floyd’s Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2) has changed since we first discussed it here. I listened to it on Spotify myself to confirm the lyrics at that time, on the album The Wall (2011 remaster). I listened to it again today, on Spotify, same remaster edition. Also confirmed lyrics then and now, on various lyric websites.

    The line “Leave # Kids Alone” is sung 4 times total, twice by the band and twice by a children’s choir.

    First time I checked, it was “Leave them kids alone” 3x, and “Leave those kids alone” 1x. It has changed. Now it is “Leave them kids alone” 3x, and “Leave us kids alone” 1x.

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  28. The movie the interview with James Franco was directly released to Netflix without a showing in theaters due to the north korean/sony email fiasco of last summer… they were scared that there would be some kind of terrorist activity if released in theaters….. it was kinda a big deal.

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  29. Well, I don’t actually know what is going on with the Pink Floyd thing anymore. Maybe somebody who knows Pink Floyd better can say, cause it’s too confusing for me.

    There is a music video I’ve never seen before, didn’t find it when I was looking before, just titled Another Brick in the Wall. (No part 1, 2, 3). It has a lot more classroom acting scenes in it, and period costumes. In it, they say them 2x and those 2x. I did not see this version of the song on the album though, so I don’t know where it comes from? Maybe the 1982 movie The Wall, but it also apparently got played on MTV.

    Then there is the music video I found before, Another Brick in the Wall (part 2), exact same way I remember it. Part modern dressed kids, and part animation. They still say them 3x and those 2x.

    And then there is Another Brick in the Wall (part 2) on The Wall (2011 remastered). They say them 3x and us 1x. Lyric websites also now say Them 3x and us 1x. It doesn’t match the music video anymore. This still seems to have changed from the way I remember it, not that long ago. I just know they never said us.

    I don’t have access to an original album, so I don’t know what that says. It’s not clear to me anymore which version they would have played on the radio, either.

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    1. Another Brick in the WALL – all versions say in the lyrics BRICK. And that’s what I recall being sung. Now, the word BRICK is sung as BREAK everytime. Except when the boys choir sings. (unless im hearing an English accent, but I really dont think that is the case).

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      1. Do you have a YouTube link to the lyrics sounding like that? (“Brick” should sound the same, regardless of the accent. If anything, an American accent from the Deep South can have a “braak” sound to it. In England, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything close to “break” as a pronunciation, but I’ll admit I’m not 100% sure of accents from all areas.)

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        1. Apologies Fiona, no matter what video I bring up I don’t hear ‘Break’ at all, as I did several times on a burned CD in my car. Now, I only hear it once in my car (pt.3). And its not as clear as i remember. I can’t explain it.

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        1. Okay, I was more comfortable thinking the issue was your burn software. I listened to that YouTube recording closely and it does sound like “break” and then “breaks,” respectively. And that is very, very unsettling. (And exactly the kind of thing we sometimes need, to avoid complacency.)

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          1. Ok Fiona I was going to omit this but …

            The day I first heard BREAK in the Pink Floyd songs, I decided to rummaging through YouTube that night. Very late, a video came up that I vaguely remember hitting. I was doing something else so I wasn’t paying great attention, and the video was a pic of something and sound was distorted and would phase in and out. I was hearing words like ‘dimension’ and ‘shift’ but nothing put together. My head jumped up when I heard ” … this is what we call the wall … ” it was choppy but that’s what I heard. I immediately paused it to listen fully. I have no recollection of what happened after that. I can’t find this video anywhere. I went through my entire History on Youtube and couldn’t find it. I’ve continued looking periodically to no avail.

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            1. … and it is now back to BREAK(S) except once. I believe I have ideas about why I hear different words at different times……. but until then grab a frequency you like and stay there til the next shift…..

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              1. More on music …

                … I recall Pink Floyd’s ‘Brain Damage’ being on the second disc. There are differences that I’m surprised I didn’t see sooner.
                … another point I was avoiding hoping I get a clearing memory. I recall speaking with a friend about Pink Floyd. I wasn’t into them except for their hits in the 80s and 90s. I asked him who was in the band was. He told me and mentioned someone died. I recall me asking who died in the band, he said Gilmore, guitarist. At the time I didn’t know the difference. I forgot all about it until 1999 when he preformed on McCartney’s Run Devil Run CD, and I figured I was mistaken.

                … Michael Jackson lyrics … Off The Wall ? ? ?
                “life ain’t so bad at all, if you live it off the wall”

                … Steve Millers song The Joker – The vocal melodies have changed very slightly. If you know the song and sing it the way you remember, you will see what I mean.

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                1. After further reflection, I am mistaking ‘Brain Damage’ with another song. Suffice it to say that the second half of Pink Floyds The Wall is off to me as far as songs and order but this could be due to singles and the movie.

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  30. Woah I just realized that there have been a bunch of instances where my friends ask me if I remember that time that this or that happened and they’re like “you were definately there” but I don’t remember it at all and I always thought it was just because I had a bad memory (I don’t drink or do drugs so it’s not that either) but I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they suddenly felt like strangers to me a couple of years ago when they seemed to change literally overnight. They weren’t just different, it felt like I didn’t know these people at all. Now that I’ve been around them a lot I feel like I’ve gotten to know the people that they are now, but they still don’t feel like the same people I grew up with. I had never thought much of this before, I always figured it was just because people change over time as they grow up, but this was so sudden, like one day I knew them then the next I had no idea who these people were anymore and wondered what had happened to my friends. I’ve known about the Mandela Effect for a couple months now but this just hit me right now while I was scrolling through this page for some reason.

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    1. Naomi, this deck has been mentioned in the past. I should probably create a page about it. It’s rather fascinating. (I’m adding a related article to my to-do list.)

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  31. Here in Lucknow,sun has been unusually hot and penetrating for the month of October,the nights are chillier,got me down with fever for a week.

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  32. Okay so this might be random but the Snow White one where the evil queen APPARENTLY says “Magic Mirror, on the wall” and of course everyone remembers it to be “Mirror Mirror.” Okay well I was watching the scene and I found something else rather small but still very odd, in the same quote the evil queen says “Magic Mirror on the wall, who is the fairest ONE of all?” I ALWAYS remembered it to be “Fairest OF THEM all” anyone else feel the same?

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    1. Mark, I replied to your comment yesterday, but it ended up in a random thread. Anyway, I agree with you that it used to be “who’s the fairest of them all?”
      Another weird thing just happened with this comment. I finally found it again, and started composing a reply to Anthony. When I checked the comment again before hitting post, the comment was by Mark. I had to edit my comment as I had written Anthony. Maybe I’m losing my marbles.

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  33. Having read most of the articles and comments here, I’ve noticed no mention of psychedelics and their use/misuse as possible affects. I’m a strong supporter of the educational usage of psychedelics having done many myself. As some of you know, DMT (N-Dimethyltryptamine) floods the pineal gland, which occurs at birth, dreams, death and near-death experiences. I think it’s no coincidence that a natural occurring psycho-tropic drug is in our bodies and in the natural world (ie. the ayahuasca vine). Perhaps those of use with “alternate memories” are experiencing a small but potent effect of such occurrences?

    I’ve been interested in shamanism, psychedelics and their indigenous uses for years now (I’m in my late 20s) and through my own experiences, they can have powerful effects both during and after use. One effect for me is I can acutely and accurately effect most technology either through glitches or complete malfunction. Rarely do computers, iPods, TVs, or the internet work well for me as it does for most other people. I’m constantly having problems with them freezing, glitching, or having what my family, friends and I have dubbed (add my name here)-problems. It’s a long running joke amongst us. In addition, I can turn on and off street lights mostly on command. This was something I noticed starting around 2009 right when I started experimenting with psychedelics.

    I think most of us can agree that the ancients, their societies included, used such medicines as tools to communicate with the spirit and natural worlds, as well as access the “ancient, myth based” mindset we have strayed very far from in modern society. My theory, from what I’ve noticed as a long running motif amongst us feeling these changes and mis-memories (anti-memories?) is an appreciation of nature, an empathic love for one another, and the foresight to notice changes others are ignorant to or unable to see. The Mandela Effect is complete affirmation of this.

    With all that being said, the recent interest in shamanism, western use of ayahuasca, and others in Western society shows me a purposed attempt to seek meaning beyond what is prescribed through distractions and separation amongst ourselves emotionally and psychically. It might be far fetched but this might be a recruitment process that occurs organically, through the subtleties of memory placement, towards a greater society. I personally have felt a strong detachment from most people with the exception of a few (my fiancé and I both love this site and luckily are from each other’s timeline) and this site really allowed us refuge from what seemed like a dismal path towards nothing really. The current state of affairs worldwide, the abuse of the planet’s resources, and the lack of love towards one another, these are lost on me (and I imagine all of us experiencing the ME) for I think the issue is much deeper and more profound than just a few misremembered things.

    Sorry for the ramble haha

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